South Africa: A Lesson In Registering Guns

[Peicemaker]

you joke but there a Russian vessel currently detained off the coast of South Afrika, loaded with guns and explosives ...

Russian cargo ship allegedly carrying explosives arrested near Port Elizabeth


Unfortunately, too many white SAs are too brainwashed and libtarded. Very few who are not, can't band together, but even if they could, they could never mount a resistance equal to Rhodesia which btw failed and they did die, despite what the song says.

I was Boer, I'd sell off land to Chinese and let them deal with it. China is big in Afrika and without any white guilt they are known to unleash hell onto natives.

Imagine if the informant didn't notice anything amiss and that weaponry ended up in the hands of the few Boers willing to mount a resistance... That's one ship. Id imagine there will be more. I get the feeling that ole Vlad is trying to lend a helping hand down there.

 

[Uzi2]

Imagine if the informant didn't notice anything amiss and that weaponry ended up in the hands of the few Boers willing to mount a resistance... That's one ship. Id imagine there will be more. I get the feeling that ole Vlad is trying to lend a helping hand down there.

Good on Vlad if he is.

 

[Boris]

Good on Vlad if he is.

I'm not sure what Vlad is doing there, but there is a word that a bunch Russian mercs are "working" in that region and a crew of Russian journalists who wanted to cover that topic ended up dead a few weeks back.

I'm certain that whatever Vlad is up to, it's not saving the Boer. Vlad can't even pronounced it. Why are Russians in Afrika ... I don't know, but it would be interesting to find out.

never mind, there were some Russians in central African republic, they got diamonds and gold, so:

Murdered chasing mercenaries - CNN

 

[Varmint]

South Africa: A Lesson In Registering Guns - AllOutdoor.com


South Africa: A Lesson In Registering Guns
The landslide of gun control starts with registering your guns.
Posted 4 days ago in Legal Issues, Opinion by Kevin Felts with 6 Comments

Gun control zealots seem to have a difficult time understanding why gun owners oppose registering guns. Besides the issue of registering people who exercise their rights, there is the example of South Africa.

First came a law that said all gun owners must register their firearms.

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Second, the law said firearms must be re-registered.

Third, the firearm must be re-registered 90 days before the registry expires.

Fourth, any firearm that is not registered must be handed in for disposal.

Move the goal post enough and eventually people will slip through. In the case of South Africa, 300,000 people have been ordered to turn in their guns.

South Africa Calls for 300,000 Gun Owners to Turn Over Their Weapons.

The Constitutional Court of South Africa recently ruled that 300,000 gun owners must turn in their firearms.

This judgement came in response to the North Gauteng High Court’s ruling in 2017 which said Section 24 and Section 28 of the Firearm’s Control Act were unconstitutional.

[…]

Now that the High Court’s initial ruling has been overturned, gun owners who failed to renew their firearms licenses must hand in their firearms to the nearest police station, where authorities will then proceed to destroy them.

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First comes a simple law that says all gun owners must register their firearms. Then comes the fees, and the licensing, and the complicated paperwork. Eventually, the “simple law” morphs into something so complicated the people enforcing the laws are not even sure of what they are supposed to do.

Take California, for example. When Gun owners had to register their firearms for the bullet button law, the website kept crashing. There are stories of people spending hours upon hours attempting to register their firearms.

All it takes is that first law to force people to register their firearms, and things spiral downhill from there.

How long until California, New York, Washington D.C…. pass a law like what is happening in South Africa? Now that the gun owners of California have registered their guns, the government will know whose door to knock on first.

You don’t even need the anti gun aspect, the government screws up everything it does, and gets bigger, more bloated and more incompetent every year.

 

[Varmint]

My history might be off a bit, but SA was all black for many millenia up till about 1600s when the dutch came in for farm land and minerals. Dutch exploited people and lands until the English came in about 250 years later to do the same. Both Dutch and English fought many wars with local tribes this whole time. Current population is 10% white 500 years later. If I was a white SA, I am not sure I would even want to be there for the long term. Sounds like it will become more like many of the other 2nd or 3d world African states/nations. Devolving into dictatorship or bands of tribes to fight it out amongst themselves.

I wonder what percentage of black South Africans are actual decendents of natives who were there when the Europeans arrived? I bet a lot of them are decendents of slaves brought from other regions. If they’re gonna use the decendent argument, you should rule out all decendents of imported slaves.

 

[Tallen]

I wonder what percentage of black South Africans are actual decendents of natives who were there when the Europeans arrived? I bet a lot of them are decendents of slaves brought from other regions. If they’re gonna use the decendent argument, you should rule out all decendents of imported slaves.

My understanding is South African blacks consider themselves a tribe now, regardless of ancestry, and hate other African blacks only slightly less than white South Africans.

 

[Varmint]

My understanding is South African blacks consider themselves a tribe now, regardless of ancestry, and hate other African blacks only slightly less than white South Africans.

Nice. Well they can let these guys take over this beautiful country and turn it into a shithole or they can make a stand.

 

[AHM]

My understanding is South African blacks consider themselves a tribe now, regardless of ancestry, ...

If that's true, then we should put them on retainer,
to teach us how to effect the same change in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

 

[Peicemaker]

I wonder what percentage of black South Africans are actual decendents of natives who were there when the Europeans arrived? I bet a lot of them are decendents of slaves brought from other regions. If they’re gonna use the decendent argument, you should rule out all decendents of imported slaves.

I dont have stats, because SA doesn't record such stats, but most of them are descended from people who moved to SA after the land was already settled by the Boers, who, by the way homesteaded mostly vacant land. What wasn't vacant was bought from the koisan and other groups. Those groups are also currently being suppressed by the government there.

Fun song. And yeah, its in Limited state.

 

[Frizzle Fry]

My history might be off a bit, but SA was all black for many millenia up till about 1600s when the dutch came in for farm land and minerals. Dutch exploited people and lands until the English came in about 250 years later to do the same. Both Dutch and English fought many wars with local tribes this whole time. Current population is 10% white 500 years later. If I was a white SA, I am not sure I would even want to be there for the long term. Sounds like it will become more like many of the other 2nd or 3d world African states/nations. Devolving into dictatorship or bands of tribes to fight it out amongst themselves.

Well, yes, but frankly there weren't that many locals to begin with relatively. There were plenty of people, but most black South Africans are not native to the country but economic migrants, or the children, grand children, and great grand children of economic migrants. Many came in even during apartheid for economic opportunity from surrounding countries that were not doing well... they're certainly not entitled to the land by some birthright; most came to South Africa well after the Boers/Afrikaaners.

In fact, the locals who owe their heritage to the country back more than a few generations, those very tribes and their leadership, are mostly opposed to the ANC (white collar progressive commies), the EFF (antifa-esque radical megacommies), Chinese interference (commies), and the concept of expropriation (commie theft). The Boers farms offer employment and food security, and tend to be run quite well. Mostly the actual South Africans who owe their heritage to SA tribes, want independence or economic opportunity (not outcome). Who'd think Zulus (a warrior culture) were libertarians?

It's one thing to lose your land to a foreign invader or war, but in this case we're talking about losing a farm that may have been in your family since before the US was founded, to your own government, to be given to economic migrants whose families showed up AFTER yours - based on race nonetheless... I could certainly see fighting for that. Most of the land in question wasn't even occupied when the Boers/Afrikaaners arrived.

 

[not new guy]

Say it with me kids: Registration leads to...

As Land Confiscations Loom, South Africa Rules 300,000 Gun-Owners Turn Over Their Weapons

 

[Horrible]

Say it with me kids: Registration leads to...

As Land Confiscations Loom, South Africa Rules 300,000 Gun-Owners Turn Over Their Weapons

Hopefully there will be mass civil disobedience. Nothing spells your end like turning in your guns.

 

[not new guy]

I think we'll see (more) farmers dying on their land rather than giving up their guns or their property. It sounds like things are moving quickly at this point. Not sure if there are enough farmers with guns to make a proper civil war out of it though.