Permits Soar to Allow More Concealed Guns - WSJ

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Craig Steckler, president of the International Association of Chiefs of Police, said he could remember only "one instance in which someone effectively defended himself" with a firearm during his 21 years as police chief in Fremont, Calif.
What a way to stack the statistic in favor of your point of view. If you don't actually issue CCW license to people it stands to reason that most of your citizens-with-guns experience will be of the "guns being used not in ways they're designed.." variety.
 
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Really? I can remember hundreds of officers, military, etc. using firearms to defend themselves. That's awkward. Was he asleep his whole career?
 

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There's a shocker, the President of the International Association of Chiefs appointed by Politicians (IACP) is anti 2nd Amendment.

Someone call Captain Renault!
 

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What a way to stack the statistic in favor of your point of view. If you don't actually issue CCW license to people it stands to reason that most of your citizens-with-guns experience will be of the "guns being used not in ways they're designed.." variety.
True; if people don't have access to something, obviously they can't use it. CCW notwithstanding, to legally own a handgun in CA you must take a safety course, pass a test, and then there's still the 10-day waiting period. I'm sure a lot of people get discouraged by the whole process.

Thomas Dart, sheriff of Illinois's Cook County, which encompasses Chicago, said that although the effect on crime is disputed, more people carrying guns "makes our job more difficult."

"Without the gun, it's a fistfight. With the gun, it's a shooting," he said.
No, douche, when you don't allow citizens to carry guns, it's a gun-fistfight, b/c the criminals still have them.
 

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A growing number of Americans are getting permission to carry firearms in public—and under their clothes—a development that has sparked concern among some law-enforcement authorities.

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A growing number of Americans are getting permission to carry firearms in public—and under their clothes—a development that has sparked concern among some law-enforcement authorities.

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A growing number of Americans are getting permission to carry firearms in public—and under their clothes—a development that has sparked concern among some law-enforcement authorities.

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"Permission," eh? Under their clothes?? Say it ain't so!
 

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True; if people don't have access to something, obviously they can't use it. CCW notwithstanding, to legally own a handgun in CA you must take a safety course, pass a test, and then there's still the 10-day waiting period. I'm sure a lot of people get discouraged by the whole process.
Also, Fremont is in Alameda County. No city in Alameda county will issue a CCW permit. Unless you are politically connected of course.
 
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Also, Fremont is in Alameda County. No city in Alameda county will issue a CCW permit. Unless you are politically connected of course.
And yet they have some of the most violent places in CA and the country. Oakland and surrounding cities are toilets.
 
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