Paper patching. Who’s doing it?

[38ExtraSpecial]

Anyone paper patching for smokeless?

Seems like a lot of paper patchers are black powder guys.

535 grain Lyman Postell with 12 grains of Unique.
No real accuracy testing on these just ringing some steel at 200.

 

[NavelOfficer]

Not I. I somehow acquired some RCBS .45 Basic and they have a paper-patched bullet in them, but not my doing. Marked 45x2.42 on the box...?

 

[ffej ruedorb]

I bought the book and the paper. You could say I’m fixin to

 

[38ExtraSpecial]

Not I. I somehow acquired some RCBS .45 Basic and they have a paper-patched bullet in them, but not my doing. Marked 45x2.42 on the box...?

Ooo I would say that’s 45 2 and 4/10ths aka 45-90
The old designation of case length was used because it might not always be a 45-90. It might have more or less powder depending on what was ordered. So they went by case length like the 45 2.1 or 45 2 1/10th Aka 45-70. Which wasn’t always a 45-70 as we know. It sometimes had 50 grains or powder.

Those are pretty! I need me some old cartridges for my cartridge board!
You wanna sell one?

 

[Lennypeters]

I paper patch .38-55 for an old Swedish rolling block. A well compressed load of 3f, a disk punched from a milk carton and a cookie of beeswax. Its been a while since I've shot it and I hope to soon.

 

[38ExtraSpecial]

I paper patch .38-55 for an old Swedish rolling block. A well compressed load of 3f, a disk punched from a milk carton and a cookie of beeswax. Its been a while since I've shot it and I hope to soon.

What’s your sizing look like?
Bore vs. bullet size and final size after patching. ?

 

[Lennypeters]

What’s your sizing look like?
Bore vs. bullet size and final size after patching. ?

The mold is something I made myself. It drops a .368 pure lead bullet and I wrap it with 2 layers of.002 tracing paper giving me .376 diameter. This drops right into an unsized fired case.

 

[38ExtraSpecial]

The mold is something I made myself. It drops a .368 pure lead bullet and I wrap it with 2 layers of.002 tracing paper giving me .376 diameter. This drops right into an unsized fired case.

Awesome.

Do you have pics?

 

[Lennypeters]

The mold is an old Lee that I recut with a homemade D reamer.

 

[38ExtraSpecial]

The mold is an old Lee that I recut with a homemade D reamer.

Now that’s cool. How’s the accuracy?

 

[Lennypeters]

Now that’s cool. How’s the accuracy?

Nothing spectacular. About 2" at 50 yards. Fun as hell. The white smoke. The smell. The kaboom. Doing something few people have even heard of.

 

[38ExtraSpecial]

Nothing spectacular. About 2" at 50 yards. Fun as hell. The white smoke. The smell. The kaboom. Doing something few people have even heard of.

Yeah I love seeing the confetti when the shot goes off.

 

[NavelOfficer]

Those are pretty! I need me some old cartridges for my cartridge board!
You wanna sell one?


If you drive down you can have one.

 

[gerrycaruso]

Yes. I paper patch for smokeless. It's for a Remington rolling block in 43 Spanish.

 

[Tim_McD]

Man knew something about paper patching

 

[38ExtraSpecial]

Yes. I paper patch for smokeless. It's for a Remington rolling block in 43 Spanish.

How’s the accuracy on that old girl?
Pushing rifle powders or Unique?

 

[gerrycaruso]

The accuracy went from about 10" to about 2 " at 50 yards. I'm using 5744. When it's on at 100, it's 28 inches low at 200.

 

[38ExtraSpecial]

The accuracy went from about 10" to about 2 " at 50 yards. I'm using 5744. When it's on at 100, it's 28 inches low at 200.

Wow that’s a great increase in accuracy. Did you have to play with the powder charge or not?

 

[Road_Clam]

I bought this book , outstanding reference on PP but only references BP. Not much info if your wanting to load develop smokeless.

Merchandise :: Books :: LOADING & SHOOTING PAPER PATCHED BULLETS - A BEGINNERS GUIDE

A beginners guide for learning to load and shoot paper patched bullets by Randolph S Wright

shilohrifle.com

 

[38ExtraSpecial]

I bought this book , outstanding reference on PP but only references BP. Not much info if your wanting to load develop smokeless.

Merchandise :: Books :: LOADING & SHOOTING PAPER PATCHED BULLETS - A BEGINNERS GUIDE

A beginners guide for learning to load and shoot paper patched bullets by Randolph S Wright

shilohrifle.com

You BP guys think you’re sooooo cool.

 

[Road_Clam]

You BP guys think you’re sooooo cool.

I'm cool, but the "cool kids" that stuff lead balls into a 45-70 case are the REALLY "cool " kids !

 

[38ExtraSpecial]

Hahaha. Wonder if I can paper patch those.

 

[45BPCR]

Here's a 8X56RD with a patched 249 grn NOE bullet ment for the 300 BLK.
I make the cases from Starline 45-90 brass.
The NOE bullet is a bit to long for the twist rate in my Swedish Roller and shows signs of tipping @200yds.
Cast 16-1 it does shoot better with 1 1/2 F than smokeless.
I hesitate to drive it to fast because of, well, 1879 Rolling Blocks.
Some of the old Norma data shows pressure at nearly 40,000 psi.
Be it a Roller or Krag thats 130+ years old?
Yeah --- NO.
Not using that data.

 

[38ExtraSpecial]

Here's a 8X56RD with a patched 249 grn NOE bullet ment for the 300 BLK.
I make the cases from Starline 45-90 brass.
The NOE bullet is a bit to long for the twist rate in my Swedish Roller and shows signs of tipping @200yds.
Cast 16-1 it does shoot better with 1 1/2 F than smokeless.
I hesitate to drive it to fast because of, well, 1879 Rolling Blocks.
Some of the old Norma data shows pressure at nearly 40,000 psi.
Be it a Roller or Krag thats 130+ years old?
Yeah --- NO.
Not using that data.View attachment 735436

Yeah you just don’t need to go hot. Though the rollers were strong actions. Lots of cheaply made knock offs out there too.