Medal of Honor

[rwl1955]

Don`t you love the Globe burying the story of Navy Seal LT.Murphy being awarded the Medal of Honor postumously yesterday on pg.2. And today the devote a front page story in the Living/Arts section to the grandaughter of the traitor Rosenbergs, a civil rights lawyer who is suing the Federal Govt. over post 9/11 Detentions.
I have spent 19 yrs. in the Army Reserves and Guard and I must say I can`t believe I have vowed to defend these traitors. I have missed birthdays, graduations, holidays,etc. I have lived in shitholes the average American would never even consider spending 1 minute in. I have slept in holes in the ground. In snow, mud, pouring rain. I have eaten food that the average American wouldn`t serve in a soup kitchen. For these a**h***s. f*** Them!

I hate liberal Dems. I hate the politicians in this state. All I can say is that they deserve what they get. The only good thing about this state are the sports teams. Go Sox!

 

[Arioch]

I spent 28 years in the reserves, and once I could no longer hide from the fact that my Commander in Chief (W. J. Clinton) did, in fact, expect me to defend those POS, I quit in disgust. But stick it out at least until you get that 20 year letter.

 

[Rockrivr1]

We serve to protect the American way of life. This includes the F'ed up Liberals. I hear you 100% and agree with the sentiments, but it is what it is. It's what makes America great. Just pisses you off to no end sometimes though.

 

[Admin]

I agree.

 

[rwl1955]

Liberals

I spent 28 years in the reserves, and once I could no longer hide from the fact that my Commander in Chief (W. J. Clinton) did, in fact, expect me to defend those POS, I quit in disgust. But stick it out at least until you get that 20 year letter.

*****
Yup. I have exactly 1 year from this month for my 20 year letter. My latest contract runs out April 09.

 

[Admin]

And rwl1955, Thank you for your long service. It is truly appreciated by many.

 

[KMaurer]

At least the Globe mentioned the fact. At last check, the NY Times had yet to have a single word, even though Murphy was from Patchogue.

Ken

 

[Dirtypacman]

I appreciate what each and every service man and woman does - knowing full well there are other americans out there that would love to see failure.

You should all be honored in my mind.

 

[rwl1955]

An Ungrateful Nation

We serve to protect the American way of life. This includes the F'ed up Liberals. I hear you 100% and agree with the sentiments, but it is what it is. It's what makes America great. Just pisses you off to no end sometimes though.

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How America Treats Its Military
By Chuck Colson
Tuesday, October 23, 2007

One of the really formative experiences in my life was serving as an officer in the Marine Corps. I thought military service was an honorable profession, so much so that I urged my sons to consider military service—even though that was during the Vietnam War.

But after what I have been watching the past few months, I wonder if I would urge my grandsons to serve today.

One of the most disillusioning moments for me was when the New York Times ran that ad—at a discount, by the way—for MoveOn.org calling General Petraeus “General Betray Us.” This honorable West Point graduate with a distinguished military career: We do this to him? Unbelievably, a resolution in the Senate to disavow the MoveOn.org ad war was opposed by all the leading Democratic presidential candidates.

Equally bad is what the Senate did to General Peter Pace. The majority leader—who, by the way, ran an elevator in the Capitol during the Vietnam War—accused this most decorated marine officer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, of being incompetent. Senate leaders attacked Pace because he had the audacity to express his view that both adultery and homosexual behavior are morally wrong.

The mainstream press has also done its share of harm to our service members. As General Ricardo Sanchez said, as described in a Wall Street Journal op-ed piece last Thursday, “What is clear to me is that you [referring to the media] are perpetrating the corrosive partisan politics that is destroying our country and killing our service members who are at war.” He lashed out at Congress for rank partisanship, undermining the confidence of the troops.

The general also faulted the Bush administration for its handling of the war—which, by the way, was the only thing the New York Times reported from his speech.

This is what we have come to in America: slandering our generals and undermining—even endangering—our troops.

Our cultural and political leaders have forgotten, if they ever knew, that the willingness to sacrifice on behalf of others is why serving in the military is considered such a high calling—and a part of what makes just wars just. Thomas Aquinas in his classic Summa Theologica puts his discussion of just war in the chapter on charity—the love of God and neighbor.

And reformer John Calvin called the soldier an “agent of God’s love” because “restraining evil out of love for neighbor is an imitation of God’s restraining evil out of love for His creatures.”

We are blessed that so many fine men and women are willing to wield the sword on our behalf in this country. But are we, in turn, willing to respect and honor those sacrificing for us? And if not, can we blame them if one day they decide to lay down their arms?

What kind of a world would this be if that happened? We would have a world where evil reigned unchecked by justice, and where the strong would be free to prey on the weak.

The problem is not with our service members who are serving us nobly and ably in Iraq; it is the political and cultural leaders who are dishonoring them. If most Americans share their attitude, then I say bring the troops home. Why should they risk their lives for an ungrateful nation?

If we want them to continue to lay down their lives to protect us, then I say it is time for the politicians and the media to get a hold of themselves and give our troops the respect, honor, and support that they deserve.

Chuck Colson is the Founder of BreakPoint and of Prison Fellowship Ministries. You can sign up for a free subscription of WorldView magazine here.

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One of the really formative experiences in my life was serving as an officer in the Marine Corps. I thought military service was an honorable profession, so much so that I urged my sons to consider military service—even though that was during the Vietnam War.

But after what I have been watching the past few months, I wonder if I would urge my grandsons to serve today.


A resident asks U.S. Army Platoon leader Lieutenant Charles Staab (L) with Alpha Company, 1st Battalion 30th Infantry Regiment, for medicine for their sick children during a patrol in the Sunni neighbourhood of Arab Jabour in south Baghdad October 21, 2007. The area around Patrol Base Murray was known as the Triangle of Death - a very safe area for al-Qaeda in Iraq to ambush Shiites, launch mortar and rocket attacks into the Green Zone and rig car bombs, suicide vests and other weapons for use in the Iraqi capital. REUTERS/Fabrizio Bensch (IRAQ)
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One of the most disillusioning moments for me was when the New York Times ran that ad—at a discount, by the way—for MoveOn.org calling General Petraeus “General Betray Us.” This honorable West Point graduate with a distinguished military career: We do this to him? Unbelievably, a resolution in the Senate to disavow the MoveOn.org ad war was opposed by all the leading Democratic presidential candidates.

Equally bad is what the Senate did to General Peter Pace. The majority leader—who, by the way, ran an elevator in the Capitol during the Vietnam War—accused this most decorated marine officer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, of being incompetent. Senate leaders attacked Pace because he had the audacity to express his view that both adultery and homosexual behavior are morally wrong.

The mainstream press has also done its share of harm to our service members. As General Ricardo Sanchez said, as described in a Wall Street Journal op-ed piece last Thursday, “What is clear to me is that you [referring to the media] are perpetrating the corrosive partisan politics that is destroying our country and killing our service members who are at war.” He lashed out at Congress for rank partisanship, undermining the confidence of the troops.

The general also faulted the Bush administration for its handling of the war—which, by the way, was the only thing the New York Times reported from his speech.

This is what we have come to in America: slandering our generals and undermining—even endangering—our troops.

Our cultural and political leaders have forgotten, if they ever knew, that the willingness to sacrifice on behalf of others is why serving in the military is considered such a high calling—and a part of what makes just wars just. Thomas Aquinas in his classic Summa Theologica puts his discussion of just war in the chapter on charity—the love of God and neighbor.

And reformer John Calvin called the soldier an “agent of God’s love” because “restraining evil out of love for neighbor is an imitation of God’s restraining evil out of love for His creatures.”

We are blessed that so many fine men and women are willing to wield the sword on our behalf in this country. But are we, in turn, willing to respect and honor those sacrificing for us? And if not, can we blame them if one day they decide to lay down their arms?

What kind of a world would this be if that happened? We would have a world where evil reigned unchecked by justice, and where the strong would be free to prey on the weak.

The problem is not with our service members who are serving us nobly and ably in Iraq; it is the political and cultural leaders who are dishonoring them. If most Americans share their attitude, then I say bring the troops home. Why should they risk their lives for an ungrateful nation?

If we want them to continue to lay down their lives to protect us, then I say it is time for the politicians and the media to get a hold of themselves and give our troops the respect, honor, and support that they deserve.

 

[Jay G]

Gentlemen, in case anyone else hasn't said it recently, thank you all for your service.

It is because of you that we are free.

Don't let the asshats tell you otherwise.

 

[Arioch]

********

If we want them to continue to lay down their lives to protect us, then I say it is time for the politicians and the media to get a hold of themselves and give our troops the respect, honor, and support that they deserve.

I sometimes get a little excitable (check my tag line) but somedays, I feel that I should be doing the holding of them in a place of my choosing.

 

[Rockrivr1]

Yes, we who have served and those who continue to serve are protecting an ungrateful nation. The consequences to do otherwise would be catastrophic. The Americans which make up our government have lost it's ability and will to fight on both sides of the aisle, but that does not mean that all the people stand with them. The polls say one thing. Actions from Americans say another. I can't remember which major university this happened at recently, but an anti war rally was held and there ended up being a signifiantly higher number of pro war supporters that turned up. Basically squashed the anti war supporters out of the limelight. This is the kind of stuff you never hear about. It's to bad, because that is the America I chose to think about and support with pride and patriotism.

 

[P-14]

We owe much to all of you that have served to protect our freedom. This great land would not exist today without your service, dedication, honor, and protection.

With humble thanks,

Bob

 

[Gabe]

The problem is not with our service members who are serving us nobly and ably in Iraq; it is the political and cultural leaders who are dishonoring them. If most Americans share their attitude, then I say bring the troops home. Why should they risk their lives for an ungrateful nation?

If we want them to continue to lay down their lives to protect us, then I say it is time for the politicians and the media to get a hold of themselves and give our troops the respect, honor, and support that they deserve.

The country, not just politicians, is strongly divided on the war. It is wrong for Colson to portray those against the war as "ungrateful." This is absurd. If everyone thinks being against this war is being ungrateful, then we will never consider the possibility that the war maybe should end. We will be doomed to send as many soldiers to die as it takes, regardless of whether it is ultimately a good war or not.

Do we need a consensus before we can agree that since there is such great disagreement, maybe this is enough? Can't we just accept that good, upstanding, honest Americans are coming to very different conclusions about this war? Who can say which side is right with any amount of humility?

And if this is so, then shouldn't we end it? You may say, "If there are may people supportive of the war, and many against it, then why should the latter have their way?" It is because this is a war. When we invaded Iraq, most of the country believed in the effort, and so it was justified in one important sense - it was the will of the people. WMD or not, the people wanted and supported the war.

Now, there is no unified will of the people - one way or the other - and so since this is a war, and it costs American lives - some of the most valuable American lives there are, in our soldiers - let's end it.

 

[Skald]

RWL1955:

First off, thank you very much for your long time of service.


Now, as far as the discussion of the treatment of our Military servicemen and women all I can think of is Germany and how they respected their service members.

Give you an idea how revered military service was over there Pre-WW2, an Englishman went to a dress up ball as a Prussian Officer, complete with little hat and sword. The people there almost killed him (and this was the Prussian Aristocracy).

 

[kendall-op]

CNN and MSNBC didn't cover the story on there prime time news.

 

[rwl1955]

Letter to Globe

This is an email I sent to the Globe this morning.
*****
On the front page of Tuesday`s Living/Arts section the Globe`s Bella English wrote a story on the granddaughter of Ethel&Juluis Rosenberg, 2 Russian spies that were executed for delivering nuclear secrets to the Soviet Union. Their grandaughter, Rachel Meerpol, is a lawyer who specializes in getting murderers and rapists off of death row. Bella English wrote 21 paragraphs detailing how this lawyer spent her summers staying in a camp with cottages named after communists such as Paul Robeson. Now she represents convicted murderers and suspected terrorists.

On Monday the Globe buried a story about the posthumous awarding of the Medal of Honor to the parents of Navy Seal LT. Murphy. in the Daily Briefing on the 2nd page. This heroic American did not even get the respect of having a story written about his life and Military service. The Globe copied an AP story and reprinted it.

I find the tone and the sympathies of the Boston Globe both disgusting and disturbing. To devote more space to a left wing/socialist Lawyer rather than an American Hero is appalling.

As a long time reader and subscriber I will be cancelling my subscription.

 

[rwl1955]

War

The country, not just politicians, is strongly divided on the war. It is wrong for Colson to portray those against the war as "ungrateful." This is absurd. If everyone thinks being against this war is being ungrateful, then we will never consider the possibility that the war maybe should end. We will be doomed to send as many soldiers to die as it takes, regardless of whether it is ultimately a good war or not.
*******
People`s attitude`s towards the war have nothing to do with the left`s total disrespect towards the Military and it`s members. These a**h*** don`t understand that we are the ones protecting their right to despise us.
Just look at the difference in Hollywood now compared to the 40`s. Give me an example of one recent movie depicting our Soldiers as the good guys with the exception of PVT.Ryan.

 

[MrsWildweasel]

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How America Treats Its Military
By Chuck Colson
Tuesday, October 23, 2007

One of the really formative experiences in my life was serving as an officer in the Marine Corps. I thought military service was an honorable profession, so much so that I urged my sons to consider military service—even though that was during the Vietnam War.

But after what I have been watching the past few months, I wonder if I would urge my grandsons to serve today.

One of the most disillusioning moments for me was when the New York Times ran that ad—at a discount, by the way—for MoveOn.org calling General Petraeus “General Betray Us.” This honorable West Point graduate with a distinguished military career: We do this to him? Unbelievably, a resolution in the Senate to disavow the MoveOn.org ad war was opposed by all the leading Democratic presidential candidates.

Equally bad is what the Senate did to General Peter Pace. The majority leader—who, by the way, ran an elevator in the Capitol during the Vietnam War—accused this most decorated marine officer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, of being incompetent. Senate leaders attacked Pace because he had the audacity to express his view that both adultery and homosexual behavior are morally wrong.

The mainstream press has also done its share of harm to our service members. As General Ricardo Sanchez said, as described in a Wall Street Journal op-ed piece last Thursday, “What is clear to me is that you [referring to the media] are perpetrating the corrosive partisan politics that is destroying our country and killing our service members who are at war.” He lashed out at Congress for rank partisanship, undermining the confidence of the troops.

The general also faulted the Bush administration for its handling of the war—which, by the way, was the only thing the New York Times reported from his speech.

This is what we have come to in America: slandering our generals and undermining—even endangering—our troops.

Our cultural and political leaders have forgotten, if they ever knew, that the willingness to sacrifice on behalf of others is why serving in the military is considered such a high calling—and a part of what makes just wars just. Thomas Aquinas in his classic Summa Theologica puts his discussion of just war in the chapter on charity—the love of God and neighbor.

And reformer John Calvin called the soldier an “agent of God’s love” because “restraining evil out of love for neighbor is an imitation of God’s restraining evil out of love for His creatures.”

We are blessed that so many fine men and women are willing to wield the sword on our behalf in this country. But are we, in turn, willing to respect and honor those sacrificing for us? And if not, can we blame them if one day they decide to lay down their arms?

What kind of a world would this be if that happened? We would have a world where evil reigned unchecked by justice, and where the strong would be free to prey on the weak.

The problem is not with our service members who are serving us nobly and ably in Iraq; it is the political and cultural leaders who are dishonoring them. If most Americans share their attitude, then I say bring the troops home. Why should they risk their lives for an ungrateful nation?

If we want them to continue to lay down their lives to protect us, then I say it is time for the politicians and the media to get a hold of themselves and give our troops the respect, honor, and support that they deserve.

Chuck Colson is the Founder of BreakPoint and of Prison Fellowship Ministries. You can sign up for a free subscription of WorldView magazine here.

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By Chuck Colson
Tuesday, October 23, 2007
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One of the really formative experiences in my life was serving as an officer in the Marine Corps. I thought military service was an honorable profession, so much so that I urged my sons to consider military service—even though that was during the Vietnam War.

But after what I have been watching the past few months, I wonder if I would urge my grandsons to serve today.


A resident asks U.S. Army Platoon leader Lieutenant Charles Staab (L) with Alpha Company, 1st Battalion 30th Infantry Regiment, for medicine for their sick children during a patrol in the Sunni neighbourhood of Arab Jabour in south Baghdad October 21, 2007. The area around Patrol Base Murray was known as the Triangle of Death - a very safe area for al-Qaeda in Iraq to ambush Shiites, launch mortar and rocket attacks into the Green Zone and rig car bombs, suicide vests and other weapons for use in the Iraqi capital. REUTERS/Fabrizio Bensch (IRAQ)
Related Media:
VIDEO: Britain to Cut Troops in Iraq to 2,500 in 2008
VIDEO: Turkey To Pursue Rebels Into Iraq
VIDEO: Battle for Iraq

One of the most disillusioning moments for me was when the New York Times ran that ad—at a discount, by the way—for MoveOn.org calling General Petraeus “General Betray Us.” This honorable West Point graduate with a distinguished military career: We do this to him? Unbelievably, a resolution in the Senate to disavow the MoveOn.org ad war was opposed by all the leading Democratic presidential candidates.

Equally bad is what the Senate did to General Peter Pace. The majority leader—who, by the way, ran an elevator in the Capitol during the Vietnam War—accused this most decorated marine officer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, of being incompetent. Senate leaders attacked Pace because he had the audacity to express his view that both adultery and homosexual behavior are morally wrong.

The mainstream press has also done its share of harm to our service members. As General Ricardo Sanchez said, as described in a Wall Street Journal op-ed piece last Thursday, “What is clear to me is that you [referring to the media] are perpetrating the corrosive partisan politics that is destroying our country and killing our service members who are at war.” He lashed out at Congress for rank partisanship, undermining the confidence of the troops.

The general also faulted the Bush administration for its handling of the war—which, by the way, was the only thing the New York Times reported from his speech.

This is what we have come to in America: slandering our generals and undermining—even endangering—our troops.

Our cultural and political leaders have forgotten, if they ever knew, that the willingness to sacrifice on behalf of others is why serving in the military is considered such a high calling—and a part of what makes just wars just. Thomas Aquinas in his classic Summa Theologica puts his discussion of just war in the chapter on charity—the love of God and neighbor.

And reformer John Calvin called the soldier an “agent of God’s love” because “restraining evil out of love for neighbor is an imitation of God’s restraining evil out of love for His creatures.”

We are blessed that so many fine men and women are willing to wield the sword on our behalf in this country. But are we, in turn, willing to respect and honor those sacrificing for us? And if not, can we blame them if one day they decide to lay down their arms?

What kind of a world would this be if that happened? We would have a world where evil reigned unchecked by justice, and where the strong would be free to prey on the weak.

The problem is not with our service members who are serving us nobly and ably in Iraq; it is the political and cultural leaders who are dishonoring them. If most Americans share their attitude, then I say bring the troops home. Why should they risk their lives for an ungrateful nation?

If we want them to continue to lay down their lives to protect us, then I say it is time for the politicians and the media to get a hold of themselves and give our troops the respect, honor, and support that they deserve.

First off all of you Thanks for your service. Second I can tell you from experience, our son grew up with both parents ex-mil, and his grandfather a Marine and there was NOOOOOOOOOOOOO way we could have talked him out of the service. He'll tell you he was screwed from birth. Only difference was I wouldn't sign for the Marines (sorry guys) and hubby wouldn't sign for the Navy. So it left him Army or Air Force. He chose Army.
I don't like hearing our troops being bad mouthed, and I really wish they would start trying some of these idiots for treason. Might slow the rest of them down a bit if they did.

 

[MrsWildweasel]

Yes, we who have served and those who continue to serve are protecting an ungrateful nation. The consequences to do otherwise would be catastrophic. The Americans which make up our government have lost it's ability and will to fight on both sides of the aisle, but that does not mean that all the people stand with them. The polls say one thing. Actions from Americans say another. I can't remember which major university this happened at recently, but an anti war rally was held and there ended up being a signifiantly higher number of pro war supporters that turned up. Basically squashed the anti war supporters out of the limelight. This is the kind of stuff you never hear about. It's to bad, because that is the America I chose to think about and support with pride and patriotism.

Also those of us that served right after Viet Nam also remember how our soldiers were treated then, and Many of us have vowed to not have this generation receive that kind of treatment.