i bought this aluminum bike new from walmart. pulled all the junk components off and installed new quality stuff.installed new giant wheels, new kenda kriterium 700X25 tires, new shimano sealed bottom bracket, new titanium skewers, new wellgo pedals,new shimano 28/38/48 m131 triple crankset, new kmc chain, new shimano st-ef65 trigger shifter/brake levers, new shimano tourney frt deraileur, new shimano alivio rear derailleur, new shimano 8 spd cassette, new shimano brakes, new cables, new handle bars, new ergonomic cork grips. shifts, brakes and rides perfect. basically all is new with only a few miles. my $250 price does NOT include the brooks saddle !! my components alone are worth more than my asking price. i get 17" from crank center to top of seat post. weighs 25lb without seat. 3X8 24 speed. would like to get $250 out of it. have more than that invested in components.