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The ones who mostly buy guns are straight, white, middle-aged men, rural, who have not finished college, and that is a demographic that has seen their world collapse in all kinds of ways. The NRA (National Rifle Association) comes along and whispers in their ear, "Yeah, you're pissed, you know why? Because the liberals want to take away your guns."
The problem is, gun guys do not see themselves as responsible for gun violence. Gun guys have to accept, I have to accept, that my guns affect you.
I'm not asking you to like these people. (gun owners) But I'm asking you to listen to them. They are not just testosterone-poisoned death freaks.
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...The problem is, gun guys do not see themselves as responsible for gun violence. Gun guys have to accept, I have to accept, that my guns affect you...
Yeah, maybe in the way past but the white men blah blah does not fly. Fastest growing group is women, the number of women gun owners has doubled since '07, to 25% now.
The ones who mostly buy guns are straight, white, middle-aged men, rural, who have not finished college
Gun guys have to accept, I have to accept, that my guns affect you.
Funny that, among my students of my NRA course I count m to f transsexuals, gay and bisexual men and women, straight woen, and minorities. Must be a fluke.
yup. my girlfriend is going to get her LTC. suck it, hippies.
OK, that covers Dench, Timber and Attila. Who are the women and minorities?
yes, but who's who?!
But it's interesting that most gun deaths involve black shooters and occur in densely populated urban areas, which don't jive with:
If most gun buyers are under educated, white men from rural areas, and most gun deaths occur in densely populated urban areas with black shooters - gun buyers are not the problem.
Had a guy from chelsea who spoke English as his first language. Was odd.OK, that covers Dench, Timber and Attila. Who are the women and minorities?
yup. my girlfriend is going to get her LTC. suck it, hippies.
"The problem is, gun guys do not see themselves as responsible for gun violence. Gun guys have to accept, I have to accept, that my guns affect you."
Okay. I get it. Kinda like my bottle of Jack Daniels has something to do with the guy in Topeka that gets hammered and runs a soccer mom and her kids off the road in her mini-van? Yeah, that logic makes sense to me.
I used to be like thatMy goad this summer is to get every girl I know
Yeah, like we are responsible for drunk drivers and street drag racers, because we own and drive a vehicle properly, safely, and legally.....
I am master of this death-dealing device, and you are not. I am prepared for and capable of surviving the kind of situation you can’t even bring yourself to think about. No apology necessary.
Well I guess a am a middle aged white male with no college degree living in a rural area. I'm glad someone told me. Here I thought I was a young black man living in Fitchburg with a degree in engineering.
But making it mandatory is, I now understand, a really bad idea. In this political environment, ordering gun owners to lock up their guns — even though doing so is in their own interest — merely turns up the temperature on an issue that is already irrationally hot.
I still hope to convince gun owners to secure their guns in a way that makes sense for them — in a safe, in a quick-open pistol box, or, as Farago argues, by keeping it on the hip even at home. Much of the bad stuff that happens with guns would go away if we gun owners were more careful about maintaining control of our firearms, and when bad stuff drops out of the news, the public’s appetite for gun control diminishes.
So safe storage is a good idea for everybody. Safe-storage laws, though likely produce the opposite effect of the one we want, so I’ve turned 180 degrees on the issue. (I’m hoping to get this change into future editions of the book.)
I became convinced of my error by listening to people explain, in rational tones, why I was misguided. If an Obamatron libtard like me can hear logic, so can others. Know someone who’s anti-gun? Talk to him with respect about why his views make us neither safer nor more free. You might be surprised at the response. At the very least, it couldn’t hurt.
My home town hasn't had a murder of any kind since 2004, that was a shooting, and the next one was decades before. So I guess my guns are taking a break from affecting others.