KBCraig
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USMS has a motto for fugitive recovery.The warrant team I was on with the Marshals had a very simple process.
Let's hear it.
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USMS has a motto for fugitive recovery.The warrant team I was on with the Marshals had a very simple process.
Want me to send you a picture of my task force nameplate?USMS has a motto for fugitive recovery.
Let's hear it.
USMS has a motto for fugitive recovery.
Let's hear it.
Is it, "Pussy gets 'em every time!"?Want me to send you a picture of my task force nameplate?
There was a large number of apprehensions made at women's houses for male targets.Is it, "Pussy gets 'em every time!"?
The DUSMs I knew said whether it was the one they came out of, or the one they wanted to get back into, it was always about the P-word.
From what I read the officers being charged had nothing to do with the warrant and this is an overreach by the Biden/Garland DOJ. Why didn't they go after the 2 cops who supposedly falsified the warrant?Pretty much textbook violation of civil rights, especially falsifying the affidavit for the warrant.
Kenneth Walker: Breonna Taylor's boyfriend wins $2m settlement
Louisville pays Kenneth Walker to withdraw two lawsuits against the city over his girlfriend's killing.www.bbc.com
In September 2020, officials in Louisville agreed to pay $12m to the Taylor family in a wrongful death settlement.
Her family appears to have gotten nothing.
In September 2020, officials in Louisville agreed to pay $12m to the Taylor family in a wrongful death settlement.
What is a life worth?
A young women who by all accounts was not a dirtbag
60 years of her life taken away from her.... from her family....
the problem is none of the cops that lied on the warrant application, none of them that sprayed not only her apartment, but a couple of others have not been jailed for life.
And none of them had skin in the payouts.
How many times have you had a dead body in the trunk of your rental car?
Not a fan of the 'no-knock'. I understand the cops like to go for the shock and awe effect but too many bad things can happen.
I can see how it might be useful or advantageous to the police in some instances
After all that has come out it appears this maneuver might not have been needed.
Hindsight 20-20 I guess.
I don't know anything about Ms. Taylor. But from everything I have read she also had a steady job.
So rather than burst into her home in the middle of the night why not wait a day or two and arrest her either on her way to or from work or arrest her at work.
Cop cars at hospitals are not an unusual sight and most likely would not have drawn any extra suspicion from Ms. Taylor.
Anyway, seems the wildcard in this situation is that her current boyfriend exercised his 2A rights and the cops probably had no idea he was legally armed.
Something they probably should have known if they did all their homework but apparently they did not.
I wonder how much he was suing for n the two law suits that will be dropped for him receiving the $2M.
Lawyers are getting a big chunk of that too.
Since they said the cops falsified evidence to initiate the event perhaps he should have taken the other suits a bit further.
"In August, a former police detective pleaded guilty to helping falsify evidence that led to the search of Ms Taylor's home."
Anyway, water under the bridge now.
Not a fan of the 'no-knock'. I understand the cops like to go for the shock and awe effect but too many bad things can happen.
I can see how it might be useful or advantageous to the police in some instances
After all that has come out it appears this maneuver might not have been needed.
Hindsight 20-20 I guess.
I don't know anything about Ms. Taylor. But from everything I have read she also had a steady job.
So rather than burst into her home in the middle of the night why not wait a day or two and arrest her either on her way to or from work or arrest her at work.
Cop cars at hospitals are not an unusual sight and most likely would not have drawn any extra suspicion from Ms. Taylor.
Anyway, seems the wildcard in this situation is that her current boyfriend exercised his 2A rights and the cops probably had no idea he was legally armed.
Something they probably should have known if they did all their homework but apparently they did not.
I wonder how much he was suing for n the two law suits that will be dropped for him receiving the $2M.
Lawyers are getting a big chunk of that too.
Since they said the cops falsified evidence to initiate the event perhaps he should have taken the other suits a bit further.
"In August, a former police detective pleaded guilty to helping falsify evidence that led to the search of Ms Taylor's home."
Anyway, water under the bridge now.
Indeed. Koresh was a known walker/jogger on the same route every day.They were not looking for her, they were not looking for her current BF, who she dumped the drug dealer for
They were looking for the ex boyfriend and evidence of drug trafficking
Even though they knew from the USPS that there were no suspicious deliveries to her apartment
Just another no knock or announce and enter ( Police ! followed a second later by doors being kicked) warrant being executed, and a faulty warrant, a fraudulent warrant at that
But that's OK... it is too much trouble to do these things during the day, or detain people when they are outside the residence
Waco ring a bell?
Koresh was regularly seen going to town, where he could have been detained easily, but it was more fun to roll up, destroy his car, and go to war with a fortified installation.
So a few wimmin and kidz got killed no big deal right
Ruby Ridge..... hey lets go hunt him down in the woods, that is more fun... ooops there was some collateral damage.
Anyone want to discuss the pushback from those 2 events that cost 168 people their lives in 1995?
All because law enforcement wanted to make a show of it, rather than doing it quietly
The no knock with a drug related search warrants make sense at times because they don’t want evidence destroyed. If someone has computer records, etc the no knock could make sense for similar reasons. The type of raid should be as minimally intrusive as possible and the amount of force as minimal as necessary.
No knocks should be f***ing outlawed unless someone is going to die. (eg, actual exigent circumstances)
And don't stand there and go "they knocked and said they were police so its okay" what do you think someone hears from across their house. A couple banging noises, a muffled voice, and then a nice explosion when their door gets smashed in and the flashbangs start going everywhere.
There are enough "wrong house" and cop deaths that any reasonable person would want to see that shit ended, stat.
Im not defending the raid in Louisville, just saying it wasn’t a no knock. Neighbors heard it through their doors, so it’s at least possible Taylor and bf could.
No knocks should be exceedingly rare and need to meet very strict criteria. As you suggest exigent circumstances. I’d also include arrest warrants against known violent people when other avenues to serve it are not possible.
I can see how it might be useful or advantageous to the police in some instances