Are ClamShell Devices for Pistols an NFA SBR

[STEED]

I’m interested in purchasing a clamshell type product for my Glock 22

Recover Tactical P-IX Modular AR Platform for Pistols – For Glock with a stock.

I am not sure if this classifies it as an NFA SBR.

Does it? And if so what ATF form do I need to submit so that I can purchase this.

 

[Palladin]

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I read it before I posted. I am asking about the law, not their disclaimers. I understand that this is a gray area and that the BATFE is tying to impose restrictions. My question is what ATF form do I need to apply with to cover SBR's so I don't have to worry.

 

[PappyM3]

I’m interested in purchasing a clamshell type product for my Glock 22

Recover Tactical P-IX Modular AR Platform for Pistols – For Glock with a stock.

I am not sure if this classifies it as an NFA SBR.

Does it? And if so what ATF form do I need to submit so that I can purchase this.

If it has a stock, it would become an SBR.

If it had a brace*, or you didn’t add anything on the back, it would still be a pistol. Though the ATF is currently working to ban braces.

 

[Mesatchornug]

If it had a brace*, or you didn’t add anything on the back, it would still be a pistol. Though the ATF is currently working to ban braces.

Would it? It sure looks like it has two vertical grips. I'm not well versed in NFA, but that sounds an awful lot like AOW territory to me.

 

[PappyM3]

Would it? It sure looks like it has two vertical grips. I'm not well versed in NFA, but that sounds an awful lot like AOW territory to me.

Key word, vertical. 90 degrees. Those are angled, more acute than 90 degrees. Sounds pedantic, but it’s the reality.

I don’t have the determinations on hand though. And unfortunately, braces are going to be killed pretty soon with a long court battle ensuing.

 

[Mesatchornug]

Key word, vertical. 90 degrees. Those are angled, more acute than 90 degrees. Sounds pedantic, but it’s the reality.

Interesting. I knew that AFGs didn't count. Didn't realize a literal pistol grip would be safe.

 

[PappyM3]

Interesting. I knew that AFGs didn't count. Didn't realize a literal pistol grip would be safe.

True, who knows with this ATF. They may interpret the clamshell and the pistol parts combined for their own political purposes.

 

[STEED]

Would it? It sure looks like it has two vertical grips. I'm not well versed in NFA, but that sounds an awful lot like AOW territory to me.

Not sure I agree it's AOW, but thanks for the reply

 

[not new guy]

I don't know if there's something about these that somehow gets around SBR/NFA rules, but it sure looks like it crosses that line.

 

[Mesatchornug]

Not sure I agree it's AOW, but thanks for the reply

Fortunately, my risk tolerance doesn't matter. It looks like fun!

 

[STEED]

It figures that the day I asked the question, the ATF posted this. rule 2021R-08F, “Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached ‘Stabilizing Braces"?

Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached “Stabilizing Braces” | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

If only I could pick a winning lottery number