4th Circuit Rules on Compelled Masturbation

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No qualified immunity for officer who forced teen to masturbate.

Despite the salacious come on, this case and the IJ's take on it are an interesting five minute commentary on the doctrine of qualified immunity. Qualified immunity is a core issue in two current Comm2A projects e.g. Gardner Police. The first six minutes of this pod cast are well worth your time:
View: https://soundcloud.com/institute-for-justice/short-circuit-083


The cop ultimatly killed himself. More information is here: Forcing kid to masturbate for cops in sexting case was wrong, court finds
 
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The other patently absurd thing is the fact judges are approving such ridiculous warrants in the first place. I’m positive that many times if not the majority of times judges just rubber stamp warrants without a second thought. I’d be surprised if they even read the full affidavits.
 

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There should be some sort of limit to the number of warrants a single judge can issue in a specific span of time. That would put a halt on this rubber stamping warrant bullshit.
 

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The dead pig (detective David Abbott from Virginia) was a pedo, and not just because he wanted to watch this kid jack off and take a look at the kid’s medically induced boners.

Check out the details at the below link of how F’ed up he was, and stop to consider that this dead pig had been “a member of the Northern Virginia-Washington DC Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force.”

Cop who wanted to photograph teen’s erection in sexting case commits suicide

And after they showed up to arrest him for stuff related to his relationship with a 13 year old boy he blew his brains out. And what did his department do in the wake of this mess? They release a statement that says “we are grateful for the contributions Det. Abbott made during his time with Manassas City Police”.

Yeah, the system works and cops should be trusted.
 

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There should be some sort of limit to the number of warrants a single judge can issue in a specific span of time. That would put a halt on this rubber stamping warrant bullshit.


Or, just eliminate absolute immunity from judges and prosecutors. I bet if a judge has to be held accountable for certain warrants then maybe he will question the police and prosecutors a little harder.
 

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The whole concept of qualified immunity is a joke and a total perversion of justice. But nothing new, justice doesn’t actually exist in our judicial system anyways.

The flipside is that if you allow government officials to be prosecuted and/or sued willy-nilly, you'll tie up the courts with every DB trying to sue a government official. You'd shut down the government. Which is why it's hard to sue government employees/officials.

The other patently absurd thing is the fact judges are approving such ridiculous warrants in the first place. I’m positive that many times if not the majority of times judges just rubber stamp warrants without a second thought. I’d be surprised if they even read the full affidavits.

So judges are handing out warrants like candy on one side and then letting DB's out of long sentences as if they were angels on the other.

It's either one or the other. Either judges are too strict or not strict enough.
 
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It's either one or the other. Either judges are too strict or not strict enough.

Actually, no, it doesn’t mean it’s one or the other. That judges give LEO’s broad leaway is not relevant to them giving criminals passes. In fact if you understand the reasons, actually makes more sense they would do that.

The system both cops and judges are apart of requires criminals and strives on having power. Both those things work towards that. Limiting cops authority and treating actual criminals like criminals does the opposite.
 

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The flipside is that if you allow government officials to be prosecuted and/or sued willy-nilly, you'll tie up the courts with every DB trying to sue a government official. You'd shut down the government. Which is why it's hard to sue government employees/officials.

there is practically no accountability whatsoever and there is a strong motivation to keep it that way by any .gov employee in power. There has to be accountability in extreme cases when "justice" was purchased or in cases of dereliction of duty.

One example if Mora. It should be removed like a wart, but guess what, not only there is no accountability for massive damages caused by her, you can't even get a f***ing FOIA against her office. We quiet literally have a feudal system or lords accountable to no one and a facade like they are "elected" by people.
 

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The whole concept of qualified immunity is a joke and a total perversion of justice. But nothing new, justice doesn’t actually exist in our judicial system anyways.
Qualified Immunity is the sole reason why bad LE knowingly overstep their boundaries. There is no fine line and is subject to broad interpretation.
 
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It’s the biggest reason but not the sole reason. The Daniel Shaver killer wasn’t granted qualified immunity. Neither was the North Charleston cop. Nor the cop who illegally served a warrant and shot the occupant in the head. But the Mesa cop was acquitted. The North Charleston cop had multiple hung juries, and the MD cop was never criminally charged and had the juries verdict in the civil suit tossed by badge protecting judges.

Qualified immunity or not, it doesn’t matter. Cops are rarely held accountable either way.
 
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