Young Guns a 20/20 Special Friday Jan 31st

No worries... I can relate. My dad was Army reserve and a disciplinary coordinator for a school in Dorchester at the time. The strict teaching at home to establish a good, solid foundation in firearms safety was there for us, but there were others who weren't so lucky. There used to be alternatives for this education, but not anymore it seems. That's all I was saying.

NO, I was agreeing with you. We had Eddie Eagle in School as well...but we had this at home. EVERYONE I knew had guns growing up. Hell, I still have the .22 Winchester Model 190 I got when I was about 6. There was an alternative when we were kids. I even took that Winchester to School for Show and Tell. Brought it on the bus, left it with the principle when I got to school.

I'm with you, this should still be taught both in home and school.

Sorry if I made my last post come across wrong...that's not the intent I was trying to make.
 
It would be an interesting experiment to cross reference the actions of children who's parents have educated them about gun safety and children who's parents have not. My guess is that it would be a big difference.

This was done sometime ago. They took two groups of Kindergarten kids, one group that had parents that were admittedly against guns. The other group had kids that grew up in a home where there was firearms and were taught by their parents about them.

They put guns that looked real on a table in the room.

The ones that never saw them, picked them up and played with them, pretended to shoot either other. The group that was raised with them, went and found the teacher.

I want to say that this was about 10 years ago that I saw that report.
 
Indeed, they are conflating a gang-violence problem caused by the "war on drugs" and socialist policies with accidental death of children by firearm.

Completely different issues.

They are usually counting everyone under 25 as "kids" too...

More lies and drivel from the lying drivel machine.

And one of the anti-gun rights organizations included "kids" killed while serving in Iraq and Afghanistan to artificially inflate their numbers.
 
Cool. I go to school. I also am a firearms instructor, and shoot regularly. Put me in a sim round study... against some random student who shot the sim gun once or twice.

It's such ****ing bullshit it's not even funny.

Mike
 
I got a call from my kids' school back when the older one was in 2nd grade, asking if I had guns (kid had mentioned helping me with ammo).

"Yes"

"How are they stored?" I was asked

"Holstered."

End of discussion.

FIFY, man I would love to say that to a libtard.
 
My wife and I are watching it. She saw the kids pointing guns at themselves and said "naturan selection".

I love my wife.

Note she said that while I was holding our 6 month old daughter.

Sent while slacking off at work
 
I'm surprised they found a gun owner while going door to door in New Jersey. I can imagine people knocking on my door to ask if I have guns in my home. Awful show.
 
Just watched this. Not as bad as I thought it would be. It did show me there are some seriously irresponsible gun owners out there. The woman who kept a loaded revolver sitting on the dining room table and shotgun leaning against the kitchen wall with a 6-8 year old child in the house.

One question though. Why did everyone who had a quick access safe leave the gun unloaded( not familiar with NJ laws)
 
Too bad one of those kids didn't drop the mag, pull back and lock the slide and yell "CLEAR".

:)
 
Ok guys, time to out myself: I don't think 3-4 year old kids should be playing with loaded guns. I seriously think they should wait until at least 5 years old.


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Just watched this. Not as bad as I thought it would be. It did show me there are some seriously irresponsible gun owners out there. The woman who kept a loaded revolver sitting on the dining room table and shotgun leaning against the kitchen wall with a 6-8 year old child in the house.

One question though. Why did everyone who had a quick access safe leave the gun unloaded( not familiar with NJ laws)

It's all in how you're brought up. My wife grew up in rural W. Virginia on a farm and all guns were always loaded and accessible. Five kids grew up in that house and they were taught not to touch them. And that's just one of many houses in rural America. They are everywhere.
 
Ask Pilgrim how old his (granddaughter?) was when she started shooting.

Personally, my son is turning 6 soon. Only within the last few months has he matured enough that I would consider teaching him how to use an air rifle or a .22. Previous to that, he was just too impulsive and couldn't stay properly focused; it would have been very unsafe.
 
http://crimepreventionresearchcente...isleading-report-on-dangers-of-guns-in-homes/

"ABC News is planning multiple hours of coverage on Friday that is only designed to incorrectly scare people into not owning guns. While the Pediatrics Journal study that they are emphasizing here has problems, ABC News doesn’t even come close to accurately reporting what the study does show. The ABC News report constantly talks about the significant risk of guns to children generally, recommending that people ask their neighbors about gun ownership. Their report makes it look like these accidents involve young children, but the numbers are driven by 17, 18, and 19 year olds, overwhelmingly blacks in drug gangs."
 
That was the first thing that I thought...these wouldn't be issues if we didn't make guns a mystery and educated children properly from the start.

This is what used to be done when I was growing up and before.

Guns were much more readily available and accessible and yet there were no mass school shootings that I can recall.
 
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I'll admit that overall, the show wasn't as bad as I expected. They did give a fair bit of air time to people educating their kids on guns, and showed that 14yo girl who competes in 3-gun. I think it was her mom who made a very good point which is "know your kids". Some kids (probably more likely to be boys) probably can't be trusted at a young age not to pick up a gun no matter how many times you tell them. Other kids can.

*waiting for the cries of 'STATIST'*
 
I watched it, and while it could have been more "obviously slanted", there was still the basic underlying message that guns shouldn't be in homes with children. I have to admit that it was pretty interesting watching those hidden cameras on the rooms with hidden guns and watching what kids would do when they thought no one was watching. Pretty disturbing to see that the automatic response from most of them was to look down the barrel and most of the time had their finger on the trigger at the same time! I do think that the only safe action is to properly educate kids in safe handling if you own guns - even if they are "hidden" or locked up, because they ALWAYS know regardless of how crafty we try to be. They tried to negate the effectiveness of educating kids about guns by showing a couple of bad incidents that happened despite the kids being taught, but I still feel it is far better that not teaching at all. Its the same with teaching kids about birth control. Sure, girls will still get pregnant, but certainly a lot less than would happen without education. This was a very thinly disguised anti show. They've just gotten more crafty in presenting it to "look" unbiased. BTW, did anyone notice how bad Dianne Sawyer looked? She looked like she has AIDS, or cancer or something.
 
How about the deputy sheriff who's three year old son climbed a 5' dresser and shot himself with dad's handgun that was left on top, loaded. Grim.

I held my nose and watched the whole show. The main theme seemed to be the different mindset between gun people and non-gun people and that guns in the home should be secured.... Those parents that had guns hidden around the house and thought their kids didn't know about them looked pretty stupid. The parents leaving loaded guns in drawers and under pillows with their young kids (4-6) and other peoples kids roaming around are asking for a tragedy.
 
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My question was what happed to that sheriff? As for the lady keeping the gun on the table, just open carry while in the house. Not surprised the kids new where the guns were hidden. We always new where my grandfather "hid" his service revolver. I didn't find the show that bad. I found Dianne Sawyer showed her opinion was already made.
 
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