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WWII Carbine Summer Postal League ends ?/?? Climate Change Extension in place.

Discussion in 'Mil Surp Collectors' started by mac1911, Jun 14, 2019.

  1. majspud

    majspud NES Life Member NES Member

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    M1 did well. I’ll take my Winchester for a spin at 100 in a little while.

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    I just realized I completely missed the 15 rounds part of this. I only fired 10 rounds per rifle/ target. Faaaaaail.
     
  3. mac1911

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    I will allow the average of your ten shots to replace the 5 missed .....to hot for a redo!
     
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    Nah screw that I'll consider it a warmup. Now that I know I don't need to aim lower with the T53 than I did during cooler months, I'll shoot that again with 15 rounds for score.
    And I know I can do better with the carbine. I'll try both again on a day below 80 degrees.
     
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    majspud NES Life Member NES Member

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    97F in New Bedford right now.

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    majspud NES Life Member NES Member

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    Brought out my hand built RC Depot XII assembled K98k, using a bcd42 receiver. Started as a barreled action in the winter of ‘16-‘17 to which I added a Yugo repurposed stock, armorers hand guard, and a Brownell’s tall front sight. Low 90s, HHH, windy.... but not at the bench. ‘53 Yugo targets 1 & 2, and thankfully my last 15 of skip-bang ‘78 Yugo. Haven’t shot this rifle in more than 2 years. 115/1 warm up, 126/0 middle, and a 77/0 on the third. On the third target the wind blew out the bottom clamp and the target was swinging; coupled with the ‘78 skip-bang, I wasn’t going to do well.

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  7. 45collector

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    I googled the term and came up with zilch... what is a "78 skip-bang"?
    I assume it's old surplus ammo that hang-fires... but I'd never heard the skip-bang term before.
     
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    Yes, hang fires. I bought 300 loose '78s about 5 years ago. I think I invented the term. With every round there has been this little delay before it went off; not long enough to be a 'real' hang fire.

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  9. mac1911

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    we have had some really bad 8mm mauser hang fires...... Click..wait for it wait for it waaaaiit forr BANG!
    Had some 6.5 carcano do it to ....
     
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    Broke out my last 12 boxes of ‘53 Yugo 8 mm. Next up is the last of my surplus stash; a sealed tin of ‘99 Yugo.

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    I had some surplus 7.62 Tokarev that did that. I don’t remember what country made it though.
     
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    M1= 139, 2x
    T53= 128
    SR1’s @ 100yds

    This is about the best I can do with these at this time. No spotting rounds today. Just fired 15 through each, seated with rifle on rest. 80 degrees on the dot. Zero wind. I shot with no shirt on and let me tell you that isn’t too pleasant with the Mosin!
    Carbine ammo is my reloads, 110gr FMJ, 14.7gr of H110 and mixed brass.
    Mosin ammo is surplus Russian 7N1. Wish I could find more of it for what I paid for the spam can, which is all I have left for 7.62x54r.

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    That 11 o’clock one on the T53 almost touched the 10 ring but not quite. Counted it as a 9.
     
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    130 - 1x / 100 yards
    The ammo:
    8mm Mauser PPU cases, necksized
    45gr AA 2495
    Hornady 150gr soft point
    Winchester LR primer
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    Got to try out the fancy new cartridge case (upgrade over Ziploc bags).

    The rifle: 1941 Sauer RC K98. Pictures in previous entry. It's the only rifle I own that qualifies for this event.

    The target: remembered my SR-1 this time. I didn't have a spotting scope; if I did, I probably could have gone a little higher and to the left and scored better.

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    100 yds. SR-1 target Hamilton-Wenham Rod & Gun Club.

    Quality Hardware M1 Carbine shot sitting from a front rest at 100 yards. My reloads 14.6 W-296 110gr. Hornady FMJ. Had to use a little
    Kentucky windage as it was putting them somewhat high and to the right first few shots. Have the pics in my phone and (once I figure
    how to do it!) I will post them...
    Mike
     
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    going to try and get out tomorrow with the M1 carbine 43 underwood and the Carcarno
     
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    May haul the K31 to Granby for some fine tuning. If I have enough GP11 might try to submit another score. Wish some retailer would offer that again. Somebody could sell a container load, easy.
     
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    Might want to watch the CMP Forums as GP11 comes up for sale there now and then...maybe even post a 'wanted' ad there....
    Mike
     
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    Pics up, thanks Andrew!
     
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    I want to try some evening this week to get the Inland on paper as well...
    Mike
     
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    54D4FB19-D6C5-4A24-B887-26E0011ACCFD.jpeg Quality Hardware at 50 yards, again from a front rest and waiting a little between shots...
     

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    ...and, woops 2nd pic was at 100 yds
     
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    underwood3.jpg 838148E6-8454-4A90-BF66-BAEC0943F0FA.jpeg 148/150/7X
    50 yards bench supported

    Ammo

    Sierra 110 M1 carbine- these bullets are very nice but way to expensive for general plinking. Thes loads where carefully loaded, all 1x fired Aquila cases, trimmed 1.285 , sorted by weight and loaded with 14.6 grains win 296 weighed out , #41 CCI primers
    Its really the only way to get nice ammo for a carbine.



    1943 Underwood , great little shooter this one is other than the sights being way off 2.5 setting on elevation to get POA/POI at 50yards. I will fix that at some point. Previous owner had the front sight painted Orange, This is generally a sign of one of two things...just bubba being bubba or some one needed a little help seeing the front sight.

    Its a typical post war mix master it has a Under wood upper hand guard , barrel , op rod and trigger group I forget the details of the rest. I did all the accuracy tweaks I could find less a trigger job and it really could use one 4E4E6F35-C09B-4D19-B866-B5E083FF5F20.jpeg D1D1ED85-AB2B-4F40-89C5-202FA52A047A.jpeg

    Bore

    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQS1CpWfTEY

    Not to bad for 75+ years
     
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    SCORE, yeah thats funny The sights are off on this rifle and I can not see the rear sight. I t took me a few rounds to figure out where I was impacting then I just put up the dirty birds. I was actually holing 6 oclock on the lower Dirty bird bull.
    Used PPU ammo . I must say for a 123 gn .264" bullet this round is pretty stout and load out of this little carbine. I need to get this thing shooting better!

    Im not to up on the Carcarno but I think the PPU ammo bullet might be a tad to small. .264" vs the .268 it should be ?
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    Bore

    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HxQu65YhY0

    Not bad to for 75+ years
     
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    100 yards SR-1 target Ham-Wenham R&G Club Inland “Blue Sky”
     

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    Pic showing 14 of 15 shots...had a flyer 5 at 1 o'clock out of the pic. The Carbine is one a friend sold me when he got his Winchester in the CMP carbine 'lottery'
    a few years ago. I've been pretty happy with my handloads, in the Quality Hardware, but maybe I will try the Inland with some PPU FMJ I have laying around.
    I have a bunch of Hornady 100gr. short jackets I haven't used yet and will see how that goes too...
     
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    S hort jacket, plinksters, critter smackers....they work good on varmints.
    i have a 30 carbine mold. Im not sure if its ment for rifle or the pistol. It does not have a gas check and i dont know if lower velocity (velocity where gas checks are not needed) cast loads will cycle? Maybe afrer i load up some 45acp cast i will load up some 30 carbine.
     
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    So I went out and shot the PPU in the Inland. Wasn't pretty. Forgot my scope and it was threatening to storm again, so I fired 15 at 100 yards again
    from a front rest. When I went and grabbed the target they were all very high out of the black and to the right. Since i have more reloads around than
    factory ammo, i'm going back to those...(No pics-:eek:)
    I might try some IMR4227 for the carbine as I have an 8 pounder I got cheap.
     
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    Thats a little extreme , a guila over all shoots well in my carbines. Are you sure you did not bump the rear sight.
    The M1 carbine rear sight aperture can move under recoil to higher elevations.... On the M2 sight that is.
     
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    You know, nothing else makes sense. Prolly be back at the range on Saturday. Is there a way to fix the rear site so it won't move that way? Wifes nail polish (clear)
    comes to mind...
     

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