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WWII Carbine Summer Postal League ends ?/?? Climate Change Extension in place.

Discussion in 'Mil Surp Collectors' started by mac1911, Jun 14, 2019.

  1. mac1911

    mac1911 NES Member

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    Match has been extended , in part due to climate change.
    When the climate changes back to cold it will be over...Thinking of a Halloween extension time?

    Rules :
    Entries: post picture of target and firearm along with ammunition and brief info on firearm. Unlimited re-entries with each new target
    You can post any targets shot in 2019 until 9/23
    Shots: going with 15 rounds per target
    Prizes: Luck of the draw for target entries . Prizes to be announced. I will be gathering stuff all summer and it will go into a USPS flat rate box. Winner to be drawn at random at match end. I will have some other random prize pools added as the match progresses.
    Highest score gets an amazing 1min of bragging rights
    Firearms: Any carbine type firearm used during WWII. Reproductions/clones/copies are ok .
    Ammo: What ever you feel safe using in your firearm?
    Targets : Keep it simple any variant of the SR target even reduced targets.
    Distance 25,50,100,200 yards with appropriate reduced targets. Since score is not much of a issue in this match I decided as long as the target is close in size to the aiming black its good.
    Distance and target
    200 yards SR or 13" aiming black
    100 yards SR1 or 6.3" aiming black
    50 yards A23 or 3.8" aiming black
    25 yards B2 or A7/5 or a 2.3" aiming black. So if you just want to draw a aiming black dot and post for entry go ahead.
    As much as I like to see the same targets or styles used its not important post your carbeen.
    You can find the reduced targets here
    Silver City Gun Club Targets

    Match begins NOW..... If you shot your carbine already this year go ahead and enter those!!!

    See sample post below

    Prize Pack: 1 pre ban 15 round M1 Carbine mag , 1 M2 BALL Bandoleer/Clips/Carboards 1977/78 no ammo, some 30 carbine brass....to be continued
     
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  2. mac1911

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    SCORE 150/150/15X
    DISTANCE 200 yards

    Post score and distance in red in top left corner.

    Picture of target and firearm

    Brief description of ammo used tid bit on fire arms and other facts and fictions
     
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  3. smokey-seven

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    Interesting, may have to look down the sights on 3 War2 carbines, 2 of which I have not shot yet.
     
  4. mac1911

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    21/150/0X
    50 yards

    Sitting at bench elbows for rests.
    No spotting scope. Sights set to 100 yards. No idea how the shots went.

    Ammunition was random reloads different primers and head stamps

    Rifle is post war rebuild Rock Ola
    Had very faint stock cartouches




    View: https://imgur.com/a/WHMhOy0

    Have to go through this one , get some good ammo loaded up, drag out the other carbines
     
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  5. majspud

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    25 yards: 148-9x
    Hedged my first shot- the 8

    50 yards: 139-3x. Had trouble seeing the hits so was a little high

    Early first block 1942 Winchester #7484. CMP service grade Italian return in number matched foreign stock. Replaced the hand guard with a new production and stained to match. New Remington FMJ ball ammo. 68F, light rain.
     

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    Seated at bench, lead elbow on table.

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  7. 45collector

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    Cool, I'll get in on this.
     
  8. daekken

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    If I hadn't passed on the M44 carbine a while back, I'd be in on this.
    Looking forward to the targets.
     
  9. mac1911

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    I only have the 2 inland and Rock, i have a 22lr version from Erma Wetkes that will make a showing also
     
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    I did get to fire majspud's carbine once, it's my only experience with one.
    The SKS is technically a carbine, but it's post WW2. Actually, isn't the K98k technically a "WW2 carbine"?
     
  11. mac1911

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    Any WWII carbine , i kind of forgot about the M44 ,
    Might drag out the carcano also

    The K98 is a carbine. So shoot it
     
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  12. jpm

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    Isn't the K for Karabiner which is German for carbine?

    Ok does anyone know if Krags were ever used in WW2 so I can enter with my 1896 src?
     
  13. majspud

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    K98k =

    Karabiner M98 kurz

    Model 1898 carbine, short

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    The Germans disarmed the Danish in the spring of 1941 and sent them home for prison guards and rear guard troops. So technically, Sgt. Schultz and his Krag is actually correct...although it was an American Krag. But the Americans modeled their Krag after the Danish M89, but ours lost the barrel cover, the loading door hinged down instead of forward, and our bolt was swept.

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    Look out; reacquired my hand built shooter last week. This was my target on 17.4.17...miss was a skip bang from ‘53 Yugo ammo; next 5 in the black. Thanks again to Gil for letting me buy it back. I built it from a Depot XII RC action that used a bcd42 receiver.

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  16. mac1911

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    So I ask
    1. Do we need to set some "carbine rules and definitions"

    A. i say if its official name is carbine then its good.
    B. We could set barrel length limits? Ex: 20" or less?
     
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    K98 is 24 inches. If it has carbine in the name sounds good.

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    typically a carbine is under 20" in barrel length. I think 20" or more is definitely a rifle.
     
  19. whacko

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    I've got a m44 and a m38. Heading out to the range in a bit with the 38 I think and I'll see how it goes.
     
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    I’m in negotiations for a second carbine....

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    Stopped at my LGS that usually carry official targets and they were out of stock. This target will have to do so no actual score for me.

    M38 mosin
    1942 izzy manufacture
    Ammo was tula 147 grain
    100 yards
    13 on the paper 2 hit just left
    Shooting seated elbows on bench
    I definitely need to get the front sight moved a bit she hits a schooch left. If I take a few minutes to drift that sight that would be a pretty decent centered group. Elevations not bad my point of aim was the orange center.

    Thanks this was a good excuse to get the old carbine out and make some noise.

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    That thing has as much concussion and flashback as a grenade.

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    Its brutal. Draws quite a crowd at the range.
     
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    I once had a Gew88 cavalry carbine ... full 8mm rounds ... just as nasty

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  25. mac1911

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    The vote is in..... If it says its a carbine then it is.
    So any firearm that is called a carbine in any language used in WWII shoot it.
     
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    16/150
    100 yards

    [​IMG]

    Erma Werkes M1 carbine 22lr

    View: https://imgur.com/gRHaRWH

    Been getting banged around in the cabinet and Im surprised it was even on paper.
    SK Standard plus
     
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  27. mac1911

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    129/150
    100 yards

    View: https://imgur.com/a/BaOf4ER


    K31 swiss 7.5

    Two different loads being tried out. I will transfer my shots to a SR1 later for score. Of course I went to print out some targets and printer is out og ink





    My current pictures of this rifle are tied up in Photo Bucket can be seen here
    K31

     
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  28. Mountain

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    K31? Sold the M44 so that’s all I have.
     
  29. Mountain

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    LOL You just answered my question.

    Staying in Volgograd tonight, formerly Stalingrad. Apparently Stalin lived where I am staying in 1918 or 19.
     
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    Good group; long way for a .22.

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