Would you clear a squib this way?

[pastera]

You guys don't carry a chopstick to the range to clear squibs/confirm clear tubes? Hear a pathetic poof of a bang, or feel something off, jam, etc, lock back the slide and rather than stare down the barrel, just push thru the wooden stick to confirm clear.

I keep an old cleaning rod in the range kit just to check for barrel clear.
If I squib that ammo gets segregated with the gun and I figure it out at home.

 

[nstassel]

I have read that gunsmiths used to remove squibs this way using a wadding on the powder only charge.

 

[meh]

I think @one-eyed Jack has the right of it. As long as the bullet is lodged close to the chamber, it will probably work. The pressure might spike, but it has a lower potential pressure because of the extra air space. The resulting peak pressure is uncertain, but I doubt it's going to approach barrel proof pressure. If the bullet is further down, the powder may not burn efficiently, and there might not be enough pressure to make the brass obturate. But then the gasses just blow around the case and the bullet may not move much. Not a disaster because of the low pressure.

The bottom line, though, is why this wouldn't be a last resort in the field? Or did they sell it that way? At a range during a training event like this, how can nobody have a suitable rod to push out the squib?

 

[bfm]

You could build up enough pressure between the bullets to ring the barrel. Jack.

 

[bfm]

It was a joke, I'm not cereal

Well, at least I know which episode of Bluey I am watching when me kid gets home form daycare.

 

[nstassel]

I just sacrificed a section of aluminum cleaning rod. As I mentioned before, pouring/spraying some oil in the bore can help lube the bore to make it easier for the bullet to come out.
I used a wooden dowel for my first squib without using oil and I broke the dowel.

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Does the trick just as well. Save your $11 and buy a lunch combo.

 

[enbloc]

I always save the little plastic swords that come in my cocktails... much stronger than the umbrellas...

 

[Garys]

Some days here, it's hard to tell what's serious and what's a joke.

It was a joke, I'm not cereal

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Hard pass.

A new glock barrel is far cheaper than hand surgery.

But more expensive that the deductible for hand surgery with a decent insurance policy.

 

[Bonesinium]

I'm not an expert on this so I'll just trust the experts from the random video I saw online. They look like the know what they are doing and would never steer anyone wrong.

 

[Broc]

Remember if it's done by the Israelis or Navy Seals it will catch on to the newest trendiest thing

Worst, internet warriors will tell others it works when they have never done it.

 

[Bonesinium]

Trust me bro, it works.

 

[enbloc]

Some days here, it's hard to tell what's serious and what's a joke.

 

[enbloc]

I want to try pulling the projo, loading the powder-charged case... inserting a chopstick down muzzle and seeing how far I can shoot it...



I like to think "outside the box"...

 

[Maxrobot]

Actually, Hatcher's notebook covers this. He recommended dumping half the powder after pulling the bullet. He discussed the problem of troops getting cleaning rags or cleaning pull-throughs out of M1903 Springfields. I used this method after a buddy had a Czech surplus 9mm squib leave a bullet halfway down the bore of a Walther P-38.

 

[meh]

He recommended dumping half the powder after pulling the bullet.

No need. I'm sure I'll be dumping half the powder just getting the bullet out of the case.

 

[not new guy]

The original post mentioned removing the bullet, but this is interesting:

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from POTD: Bullet Stacking in a Heckler & Koch USC Carbine -

(many photos like this on the web)

The USC's barrel is stout.

Looks like 13 rounds. I wonder if he was using aftermarket mags, it was some kind of conversion, or he did a mag change in the middle of this.

 

[Uzi2]

I've never felt comfortable using a metal or brass rod to clear a squib. I had one squib years ago and I used a wooden dowel to pound it out. Worked great and didn't worry about scarring the barrel, lands or grooves.

An aluminum or brass rod will not scar a hardened steel barrel.

 

[xtry51]

The USC's barrel is stout.

Looks like 13 rounds. I wonder if he was using aftermarket mags, it was some kind of conversion, or he did a mag change in the middle of this.

I want to go back and time and after the 10th shot ask "Hey bro, you calling your hits?"

 

[enbloc]

Should this be part of my range kit...?

 

[SgtHal75]

I’m all my years shooting, military and civilian, I’ve only had 1 squib load. About 5-6 years ago with Winchester whitebox 9mm. I didn’t even know I had a squib. The next round wouldn’t chamber because the bullet was just barely stuck at the beginning of the barrel. If that bullet would of got stuck further down the barrel I wouldn’t even have known and I would of fired the next shot into it. Scary shit.

Honest question: Does this happen a lot with you guys that reload?

I always have cleaning rods with me and a simple tap cleared it right out. And no more Winchester whitebox for this kid

 

[SgtHal75]

Well, at least I know which episode of Bluey I am watching when me kid gets home form daycare.

Here’s my Bluey!!!!

 

[SgtHal75]

I want to try pulling the projo, loading the powder-charged case... inserting a chopstick down muzzle and seeing how far I can shoot it...

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I like to think "outside the box"...

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Anybody else Lovin enbloc’s new avatar?

 

[G4Y4HK]

I want to try pulling the projo, loading the powder-charged case... inserting a chopstick down muzzle and seeing how far I can shoot it...

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I like to think "outside the box"...

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load some birdshot shells and stick a couple chopsticks down the barrel. splinter flechettes

 

[enbloc]

I’m all my years shooting, military and civilian, I’ve only had 1 squib load. About 5-6 years ago with Winchester whitebox 9mm. I didn’t even know I had a squib. The next round wouldn’t chamber because the bullet was just barely stuck at the beginning of the barrel. If that bullet would of got stuck further down the barrel I wouldn’t even have known and I would of fired the next shot into it. Scary shit.

Honest question: Does this happen a lot with you guys that reload?

I always have cleaning rods with me and a simple tap cleared it right out. And no more Winchester whitebox for this kid

That sounds like a "primer only" round... no powder.

 

[Uzi2]

I’m all my years shooting, military and civilian, I’ve only had 1 squib load. About 5-6 years ago with Winchester whitebox 9mm. I didn’t even know I had a squib. The next round wouldn’t chamber because the bullet was just barely stuck at the beginning of the barrel. If that bullet would of got stuck further down the barrel I wouldn’t even have known and I would of fired the next shot into it. Scary shit.

Honest question: Does this happen a lot with you guys that reload?

I always have cleaning rods with me and a simple tap cleared it right out. And no more Winchester whitebox for this kid

Most cleaning rods are barely of sufficient hardness to use for hammering out a stuck bullet.

It would be better to have a brass or aluminum rod of greater diameter than a cleaning rod but just under bore diameter and about 2 inches longer than the potential barrel length it might be used on. Excessive length just encourages bending instead of transfer of impact to the stuck bullet.

BTW, Winchester ammo ringed the barrel on my M11/9. I shot it for a long time with the ringed barrel but eventually changed out the barrel. Shit happens.

I've never ringed a barrel or had a squib with my reloads as I pay close attention to powder drops and triple check before seating a bullet.

 

[allen-1]

what do you guys suggest for a solid cleaning rod? I tried tapping brass one once and the only thing it did was mess up the threading.

20 GA brass cleaning rod, cut down to length.

 

[DW357]

Should this be part of my range kit...?

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Lmao. And good luck keeping the powder in the case

 

[DW357]

I’m all my years shooting, military and civilian, I’ve only had 1 squib load. About 5-6 years ago with Winchester whitebox 9mm. I didn’t even know I had a squib. The next round wouldn’t chamber because the bullet was just barely stuck at the beginning of the barrel. If that bullet would of got stuck further down the barrel I wouldn’t even have known and I would of fired the next shot into it. Scary shit.

Honest question: Does this happen a lot with you guys that reload?

I always have cleaning rods with me and a simple tap cleared it right out. And no more Winchester whitebox for this kid

I’ve had 3 squibs only in my light 357 mag (357 brass loaded to 38 spl velocities) loads. To this day I still haven’t figured out why.
Literally loaded tens upon tens of thousands of rounds across 8 calibers and the 3 were with light 357 loads.