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Pen chief’s weapon of choice

Gun permit authority ‘arbitrary,’ necessary

Clive McFarlane
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It did not seem such a big deal to me — Worcester Police Chief Gary J. Gemme suspending and then revoking the gun permit of a Shrewsbury man charged with punching his wife during a domestic dispute.

It was a big deal to the Shrewsbury man, whose assault and battery charges were dismissed, but which still weighed heavily on the chief’s decision to revoke his permit.

It was a big deal to Chief Gemme, who takes seriously his responsibility to decide who should have and carry firearms, and his quest to reduce domestic violence in the community.


Among other things, a year-old policy instituted by Chief Gemme determines a person’s suitability for a gun permit by considering the individual’s history with substance abuse and domestic violence. Under the policy, applicants are required to explain why they are buying a firearm.

“Under the law, the police chief may consider the evidence underlying a criminal charge,” Chief Gemme said.

“Even if the governor pardons the offender, I can still look at the underlying evidence and suspend or revoke a license.”

It was also a big deal to James Wallace, executive director of the Northboro-based Gun Owners’ Action League, who believes the state has given local police chiefs too much discretion in providing gun permits and limiting their use.

“They don’t have to answer to anybody,” Mr. Wallace said of police chiefs. “Their decisions in issuing and restricting licenses are totally arbitrary and abusive, and the abuse is getting worse.”

Yet, I didn’t fully appreciate the significance of this little gun permit drama until I opened the paper yesterday and read the story on the Dudley man who had some 30 weapons, including two machine guns, a silencer and a rocket-propelled grenade launcher in his possession.

The man was arraigned on two counts of possession of a machine gun, one count of possession of a silencer and two counts of improper storage of firearms.

No charges were mentioned relative to his grenade launcher, so I assumed it was covered by his firearms identification card.

One state official estimated that there are some 260,000 gun permits issued in Massachusetts, which basically boils down to about 1.5 percent of all people over 18 in the state having a gun permit.

I don’t know how many of these people carry 30-plus weapons, machine guns and grenade launchers, but we do know that the “police do not know how many guns are in the state or where they are,” according to state officials.

We also know that the lack of specific registration data makes it more difficult for police to trace guns used in crimes, identify illegal gun traffickers or hold gun owners accountable for their weapons.

There also is no automated state system to identify and disarm felons who bought guns legally but later commit a crime or otherwise become ineligible to possess their firearms.

And there are no state restrictions on gun trafficking, such as a limit on the number of handguns that can be bought at one time. Gun traffickers can easily buy large quantities of handguns at gun stores and resell them on the street to criminals.

This then is the reality Chief Gemme is trying to change with the best weapon he has, his signature.

“To put my signature on a gun permit, giving someone a license to carry a weapon, is a tremendous responsibility, and I have to take it seriously,” he said.

If the Dudley man with his cache of weapons had requested a gun permit in Worcester, for example, he would have been told that the only allowed purposes for his weapons would be: Sporting and target practice at shooting and target clubs or facilities; hunting (license for a large-capacity rifle and a shotgun); and personal protection, in which case the applicant must specify the reason he fears harm to himself or his property.

I don’t know the game this gentleman hunts, or the threats against his life and property, so perhaps the machine guns might not be overkill.

But a rocket-propelled grenade launcher?

Yes, the chief’s gun licensing stance might raise some red flags for gun owners, but I am relieved that he is at least insisting on some accountability.

I mean, should something happen here to temporarily disable law and order, as Hurricane Katrina did in New Orleans, wouldn’t it be comforting to know that all these people with their guns, ammunition and grenade launchers were law abiding?

Contact Clive McFarlane by e-mail at [email protected].
 
Yeah. Make it harder for law abiding people to own personal protection weapons as using a man that broke federal law by hording things like a RPG launcher. Awesome. That man was breaking the law. Changing how permits are issued doesn't change the fact that he would still break the law and own illegal arms. You can't buy machine guns and RPG launchers in this state no matter what LTC you have (class3 maybe for the full auto...).
 
I wrote the reporter an email detailing some of the flaws in his reporting. It may be like shoveling sh*t against the tide, but what the heck.
 
This then is the reality Chief Gemme is trying to change with the best weapon he has, his signature.

“To put my signature on a gun permit, giving someone a license to carry a weapon, is a tremendous responsibility, and I have to take it seriously,” he said.
That's the number 1 reason why he shouldn't have the power to issue.
 
Perhaps the Chief might also want to consider the grave responsibility he takes whenever he denies someone the ability to protect their life and the lives of their family from violent attacks, something that much, much more common than the rare licensed individual who threatens or actually commits a crime with a legally possessed firearm. [rofl] Just joking. We all know what his response to that would be; just dial 911 (and call time-out until the police get around to your problem). [rolleyes]

Ken
 
Flaunting my ignorance here, but here goes: Is it even illegal to have an RPG if you don't have grenades for it?

I'm guessing from the charges (the paper took the time to split it into machine gun, silencer, and improper storage, but nothing about destructive devices) that there was nothing wrong with the RPG. Like when they went crazy about finding the empty bazooka tube in the grass by an airport last year... just about as dangerous as some PVC pipe.
 
crakowski said:
Flaunting my ignorance here, but here goes: Is it even illegal to have an RPG if you don't have grenades for it?

I wouldn't think an RPG would be much without the Rockets. And you KNOW those things are hard to get.

A regular grenade launcher is no big deal, just stuff like HE Rounds are restricted.

-Weer'd Beard
 
I emailed him, trying to point out some logical flaws in his article. He emailed back with his phone number and asked me to call him. He'll be writing a follow-up piece for Monday. Look for it. Apparently he's gotten some replies from gunners and it really seemed like he may address law-abiding people being denied the right to self-defense.
He asked for my experience in the licensing process, which I gave him.
So, on Monday, we'll see what he writes!!
 
I have no info other that what I see in the news, so I am *really* reluctant to conclude that the individual in Dudley had "machine guns" or "a silencer." It's not unheard of for police to charge someone with posession of said items based on a cursory examination, only to later discover the machine guns are semi-auto equvalents and the silencer is a cosmetic barrel extenison (or one designed to bring a barrel up to the 16" non-NFA length).

For example, there was the Stram case in Cambridge a number of years ago where someone was arrested for having 500+ guns in his apartment - discovered during a police response to a burgularly (this was before the secure storage law). He was charged because no one even thought to consider that he might be in legal posession of the firearms. Determining that the bazooka he was arrested for was likely non-functioning (which turned out to be the case) required that the Boston Globe reader turn the photo upside down to read the large block lettering INERT on the side of the tube.
 
I saw the guy's stash on the news, all spread out on a table. Let me tell you, it all look pretty damn real to me. But who knows.
 
Were there grenades?

I can buy a LAW Tube and two training rockets off Gunbroker right now if my GOOG goes back to where it used to be, and have them shipped straight to my house with no FFL because the rockets don't explode on impact (even though there's enough juice to shoot them 2 miles!).
 
Painting "INERT" on a weapon seems like a good way to get it past security.

My dad had a friend who did props for movies, and they had made an extremely accurate replica of a homemade atomic bomb for the movie "Manhattan Project". They had to fly it cross country on a commercial airline. The security guys looked at it and asked what it was, and the builder said "it's a movie prop", and the security guys said "Oh, ok fine, go ahead".
 
MidKnight said:
I saw the guy's stash on the news, all spread out on a table. Let me tell you, it all look pretty damn real to me. But who knows.

And from the snews pictures, you can tell a F/A M16 from a semi-auto AR15?

I've never seen snews footage of a table full of guns/grenades that gave enough detail to determine F/A from semi-auto, inert from live grenades.

Be careful that you don't do exactly what the antis do, make a legal judgment by "how evil" something looks laid out on a table.
 
http://cbs4boston.com/local/local_story_087230717.html

View the video, they pan across the table of stuff. The silencer may be fake, who knows, but the gun on the back right of the table, to me, looks like it's not a semi-auto. Somebody more familiar with autos can tell what it is, I'm sure.

Here's a screen cap:

guns.jpg
 
There's simply no way that anyone, even John Moses Browning (peace be upon him), could tell simply by looking at it whether any firearm is semi-auto or full-auto. It all depends on the internal action parts, and unless your X-ray vision is working properly, it just isn't possible. It's simply another example of some local police and the media saying "Ooooh, look! Scary guns. Bad, evil guns."

Ken
 
KMaurer said:
There's simply no way that anyone, even John Moses Browning (peace be upon him), could tell simply by looking at it whether any firearm is semi-auto or full-auto. It all depends on the internal action parts, and unless your X-ray vision is working properly, it just isn't possible. It's simply another example of some local police and the media saying "Ooooh, look! Scary guns. Bad, evil guns."

Absolutely true. The media, however, is not going to let mere fact or reason interfere with a juicy story, especially one with such photos.
 
The written story doesn't mention the launcher in the charges but that TV story does. Whatever. I can buy that AT4 tube for $525 here You can bet your ass if it had any rocket in it it wouldn't be sitting on that table pointed horizontally.

When I get around to starting a polka band with my brothers, my first original tune is going to be dedicated to Mr. Piesak and his rocket launcher. Too bad his daughter brought the heat down on both of them. (Just say no, kids!)

Dziekuje!
 
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KMaurer said:
There's simply no way that anyone, even John Moses Browning (peace be upon him), could tell simply by looking at it whether any firearm is semi-auto or full-auto. It all depends on the internal action parts, and unless your X-ray vision is working properly, it just isn't possible. It's simply another example of some local police and the media saying "Ooooh, look! Scary guns. Bad, evil guns."

Ken
Actually, there is no way to tell if it's really a gun by looking at it. Dewats are readily sold with non-functional receivers (or sideplates for the Browning full autos like the one in the photo), but with all other "real" parts - and legally nothing other than a big paperweight.
 
MidKnight said:
Yeah. Make it harder for law abiding people to own personal protection weapons as using a man that broke federal law by hording things like a RPG launcher.


Yeah, that guy should have shared with the rest of us!!! [smile]

(oh yeah, the article was crap.)

Matt
 
Here's the follow-up article in the paper today:

Monday, April 3, 2006
Gun collector weighs in

Inconsistent rules have some owners worried

Clive McFarlane
[email protected]

T&G STAFF


I received a call from Michael on Friday. He didn’t want me to use his last name and I was only too happy to comply. He owns some 70 guns.

Mike had a bone to pick with me about a column of mine that was published that day on the strict gun permit policy Worcester Police Chief Gary J. Gemme has in place.

I said that I was relieved that the chief was conscientious in ensuring that legal gun owners are responsible and law-abiding individuals.


A few gun owners felt I was joining the Brady Bunch and trying to deny them their constitutional and, to them, God-given right to own and carry a weapon.

I was not. I just didn’t understand, since we are not living in Iraq, why any civilian would feel the need to stockpile rocket-propelled grenade launchers, one of which was found among a cache of weapons seized from a Dudley man’s home last week.

Mike said he doesn’t know the Dudley man, but wants it understood that there are legitimate gun collectors such as himself in the state.

His fixation with guns began when he joined the Marine Corps during World War II.

“I had never fired a gun in my life,” he said. “I absolutely hated guns.”

Then he fired the M-1, which was the soldier’s weapon of choice back then.

“I was amazed at the sense of accomplishment in successfully shooting targets at 200, 300, and 500 yards,” he said.

Years after getting out of the service, he applied for his first gun permit. He now has a gun room in his home that is about 9-by-6-feet in size. He’s also one of 450 members of a statewide gun club.

He also is a book collector.

“I have a bunch of signed first editions. That is fine,” he told me. “But as soon as I tell people I am a gun collector, they look at me like I am a nut. They treat you like a skunk at a lawn party. No one appreciates what you do.”

I don’t think anyone would want to deny Mike his gun collection, but I did not want to press the point. My reluctance wasn’t because Mike has 70 guns, but because he came across as reasonable as his concerns. He’s worried that in trying to keep the nation’s civilian arsenal of weapons out of unscrupulous hands, local police chiefs rob law-abiding gun owners of their constitutional rights.

Mike is particularly upset with Chief Gemme’s refusal to grant permits, as the city had done previously, for “lawful purposes,” a designation that covers all legal uses of a weapon, including self protection.

Under Chief Gemme’s new policy, if you want a gun for protection, you have to spell out exactly the threats you are facing. If the threats are real, you get your permit. If they are imagined, well, you might not.

He is not the only police chief with that attitude. The Quincy police chief, for example, takes the same stance on issuing gun permits.

Adam, a 24-year-old Quincy resident, says there isn’t a blemish on his record, he works for an architectural firm, and is a former Eagle Scout, but was denied a permit to carry a gun for personal protection.

“I couldn’t show I was in imminent danger,” he said. “But there shouldn’t have to be an imminent threat for you to have the ability to protect yourself. Right now you have a lot people coming back to renew their permits and those permits are being downgraded. That is a violation of our rights.”

Mike, our local gun collector, believes the policies of the Quincy and Worcester police chiefs are a throwback to the 1960s and ’70s. That was when it was nearly impossible to obtain a gun permit for personal protection.

“It was either sporting or target, nobody wanted to issue a permit for self-defense,” he said.

“They didn’t want a bunch of cowboys running around. If you own a jewelry store and are afraid of being robbed, they would tell you no one’s life is worth the money. If someone tries to rob you, give them the money. You would have your life and they would have theirs.”

Of course, having a permit covering only hunting and target shooting results in problems with the police, Mike noted.

“If you are driving down the street with a gun on the seat beside you, and you were not going hunting or target shooting, they would arrest you for being in violation of your permit,” he said.

“Eventually, people began realizing that not all gun owners were crazy people. … They started issuing permits for all lawful purposes.

“Now it appears that we’re changing direction again.

“What it really comes down to is uniformity as to what goes on. Show us what the rules are and we will follow them. Don’t change the rules on the fly.”

Again, I don’t have a problem with Mike on this. But I still maintain that a local police chief is in the best position to determine who does and doesn’t get a gun permit. Prove that the chief is being arbitrary in his decisions and there is a problem, one that belongs in court.

Contact Clive McFarlane by e-mail at [email protected].
 
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