Witnesses say many dead, injured in shooting at New Zealand mosque

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A letter from Senator Fraser Anning from Queensland...BOOM!:

Yep. Even though it isn't a PC statement, it holds a lot of truth. The Muslim community needs to know that you reap what you sow. Look at what Minnesota is sending to our Congress. Representative Omar is sowing discontent and hate and dividing Americans more. If immigrants want to fit in that is fine, but to try to impose your beliefs on free people will not be allowed, period.
 

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Yep. Even though it isn't a PC statement, it holds a lot of truth. The Muslim community needs to know that you reap what you sow. Look at what Minnesota is sending to our Congress. Representative Omar is sowing discontent and hate and dividing Americans more. If immigrants want to fit in that is fine, but to try to impose your beliefs on free people will not be allowed, period.
yeah, she didn't pull any punches
 

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I think this guy needed looney-binning not religious schooling... he's obvioulsy fuct in the brain.

dude, if you start counting people who are "fuct in brain" by your definition, you'll run out of numbers.

Americans lead sheltered lives and have little idea how much suffering and injustice goes on in the world. More than they could fathom, on daily basis. Us, crazy Europeans, we know what violence is. This thing in NZ, it's weak sauce. If this disturbs you, you are fuct in brain.

You can go on Amazon and buy a t-shirt with a hammer and a sickle, an idea that killed over 100mil people worldwide. But then Americans elect Bernie and AOC. Comrade, it's Americans that are fuct in brain, not the other way around, either directly or indirectly.
 

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Of COURSE they're going to regurgitate the same old disproven talking points.......but they're getting tougher and tougher for them to make and fewer and fewer people take them seriously
Yet their electoral success proceeds apace.
 

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I'm still not sure what an eco fascist is.. . This is a new term for me.
Now we're getting somewhere.....the dude is a self professed eco terrorist.......the left isnt going to be able to hide from this one.......

eco-terrorist leftist said:
Green nationalism is the only true nationalism
There is no Conservatism without nature, there is no nationalism without
environmentalism, the natural environment of our lands shaped us just as
we shaped it. We were born from our lands and our own culture was
molded by these same lands .The protection and preservation of these
lands is of the same importance as the protection and preservation of our
own ideals and beliefs.
For too long we have allowed the left to co-opt the environmentalist
movement to serve their own needs. The left has controlled all discussion
regarding environmental preservation whilst simultaneously presiding
over the continued destruction of the natural environment itself through
mass immigration and uncontrolled urbanization, whilst offering no true
solution to either issue.
There is no Green future with never ending population growth, the ideal
green world cannot exist in a World of 100 billion 50 billion or even 10
billion people. Continued immigration into Europe is environmental
warfare and ultimately destructive to nature itself.
The Europe of the future is not one of concrete and steel,smog and wires
but a place of forests, lakes, mountains and meadows. Not a place where
english is the defacto language but a place where every European
language, belief and tradition is valued. Each nation and each ethnicity
was melded by their own environment and if they are to be protected so
must their own environments.
 

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Yet their electoral success proceeds apace.
Success?

They BARELY control one half of one branch of gov........

Lets reconsider what you call success......

Pelosi has a hammer and she's willing to use it to obstruct/attempt to achieve her goals.....

Problem is that republicans dont have half the spine she has.......
 

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I'm still not sure what an eco fascist is.. . This is a new term for me.
Back when my girls were little there was this Scooby Doo movie with this group of young hot chicks playing bad music. The Hex Girls. They were. . . . .


wait for it. . . . . .


Eco-goths.


[rofl][rofl][rofl]

WTF is an Eco-Goth??? Is it similar to an Eco-Fascist?? Every time I hear E-F, I think of the Hex Girls. That was 15-20 years ago. Hahahahaha!
 

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A letter from Senator Fraser Anning from Queensland...BOOM!:
Former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull said Anning is a “disgrace to the Senate, and what is worse, by spreading hatred and turning Australians against each other, he is doing exactly what the terrorists want.”

Ha ha try something like "gun control means the terrorists win" here, and see how many politicians follow along.
 

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Well, that's federal. I'm looking at the states as well, and New Hampshire is hanging on right now by virtue of Chris Sununu's red pen.

We'll have to see what happens in 2020.
And yet how many times have we seen the pendulum swing back and forth in NH?

One election is nothing more than one election.....we've beaten this topic to death repeatedly in other threads before
 
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Kiss what little firearms they had in NZ good bye!
True. The murderer is Australian. Crime occurred in New Zealand. Law-abiding gun owners in both countries should expect to get butt-f***ed. For the Australians, it will be the second time. Wonder what will be outlawed next down there?
 

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Former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull said Anning is a “disgrace to the Senate, and what is worse, by spreading hatred and turning Australians against each other, he is doing exactly what the terrorists want.”

Ha ha try something like "gun control means the terrorists win" here, and see how many politicians follow along.
"If we beat the terrorists, the terrorists win!"
war is peace
ignorance is strength
freedom is slavery
 

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dude, if you start counting people who are "fuct in brain" by your definition, you'll run out of numbers.

Americans lead sheltered lives and have little idea how much suffering and injustice goes on in the world. More than they could fathom, on daily basis. Us, crazy Europeans, we know what violence is. This thing in NZ, it's weak sauce. If this disturbs you, you are fuct in brain.

You can go on Amazon and buy a t-shirt with a hammer and a sickle, an idea that killed over 100mil people worldwide. But then Americans elect Bernie and AOC. Comrade, it's Americans that are fuct in brain, not the other way around, either directly or indirectly.
My point is this guy probably didn't have an elevator that went all the way up, much like lanza etc, and nobody was paying attention or cared, etc. Or got glad handed, so on.

I agree with the rest of what you're saying though. Media overhypes all of this crap and ignores the truly dangerous stuff (like seguing into communism).

Tons of people are starving, dying on the reg, eating other people's pets in Venezuela because communism/socialist bullshit and nobody gives a shit. Media: "That's uncomfortable so we won't talk about that much" etc. Nobody sees how f***ed up it is down there unless they start digging...

-Mike
 
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no

both crusades and inquisition have much more earthly motives. I was hoping that you'd bring in the muslim conquest of India where orders of magnitude more people were killed. As far as killing infidels, there is only one major cult that advocates that today.

Leftism, altruism, naivete starts at youth, always had, and hopefully transitions to the right in adulthood.
Earthly motives?

Crusades were initiated to supress heresy and to regain control of holy lands which were possessed by muslims. Inquisition was aimed at eradicating Judaism and Islam to protect the catholic orthodoxy.

But you want to point out that muslims attacked india? In addition to making my point that religion is causing the craziness, you also sound like a six year old who gets in trouble and tries to blame his brother by saying "well he did it first..."

I have no problem with you or your fantasy beliefs, but let's not pretend that religions dont exacerbate the hostility (and yes, Christian are to blame too).
 

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Personally, after watching this video, any normal human being would be demanding a firearm for self protection.

These poor folks were shot in cold blood. Like shooting fish in a barrel. They were completely unable to defend themselves.

:-(
If the media tried to educate people, then I would agree and people would open up their eyes and minds. They would seek out information and training and become more knowledgeable.

However, we know the media just makes the gun the target of all evil... so the lemmings will just run and hide and say guns are evil
 

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Okay, I did some quick searches on the term "eco fascist". It's pretty much what it sounds like, except I haven't yet heard anyone proudly proclaim they are one. It's normally used as an insult (and accurately) to the left who use environmentalism as an excuse to enforce totalitarian control over everyone.
 

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True. The murderer is Australian. Crime occurred in New Zealand. Law-abiding gun owners in both countries should expect to get butt-f***ed. For the Australians, it will be the second time. Wonder what will be outlawed next down there?
The terrorist is an ECO TERRORIST according to his own manifesto

Let them own it......you know its true......the leftists/communists have been controlling the eco movement for decades and their ultimate goals are population controls.....and here the eco terrorist nut job retaliates against the block of people with highest birth rates
 

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The terrorist is an ECO TERRORIST according to his own manifesto

Let them own it......you know its true......the leftists/communists have been controlling the eco movement for decades and their ultimate goals are population controls.....and here the eco terrorist nut job retaliates against the block of people with highest birth rates
Actually, their ultimate goal is EVERYTHING and EVERYONE control.
 

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Earthly motives?

Crusades were initiated to supress heresy and to regain control of holy lands which were possessed by muslims. Inquisition was aimed at eradicating Judaism and Islam to protect the catholic orthodoxy.

But you want to point out that muslims attacked india? In addition to making my point that religion is causing the craziness, you also sound like a six year old who gets in trouble and tries to blame his brother by saying "well he did it first..."

I have no problem with you or your fantasy beliefs, but let's not pretend that religions dont exacerbate the hostility (and yes, Christian are to blame too).
Modern Christians make up a very small percentage of religious inspired violence yet the media portrays this as some systemic issue while ignoring Islamic extremism.

Edit: And seriously what Christian says "see you in Valhalla"??? Sounds pagan to me!
 
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The terrorist is an ECO TERRORIST according to his own manifesto

Let them own it......you know its true......the leftists/communists have been controlling the eco movement for decades and their ultimate goals are population controls.....and here the eco terrorist nut job retaliates against the block of people with highest birth rates
Yeah, that's why he shot all those coal miners.

Whatever his attitudes about environmental issues, it wasn't leftism that lead him to shoot up a mosque full of strangers. He had 8chan memes all over his rifles and targeted muslims. This guy is straight up alt-right trash. Get a grip man.
 

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Yeah, that's why he shot all those coal miners.

Whatever his attitudes about environmental issues, it wasn't leftism that lead him to shoot up a mosque full of strangers. He had 8chan memes all over his rifles and targeted muslims. This guy is straight up alt-right trash. Get a grip man.
So I guess we should all just completely ignore his manifesto and everything in it?
 
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Yeah, that's why he shot all those coal miners.

Whatever his attitudes about environmental issues, it wasn't leftism that lead him to shoot up a mosque full of strangers. He had 8chan memes all over his rifles and targeted muslims. This guy is straight up alt-right trash. Get a grip man.
Matt, as usual you're a couple steps behind and short on facts

Read his manifesto.....he called himself an eco terrorist......

Dont you have global warming bullshit to teach to kids?
 

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Yeah, that's why he shot all those coal miners.

Whatever his attitudes about environmental issues, it wasn't leftism that lead him to shoot up a mosque full of strangers. He had 8chan memes all over his rifles and targeted muslims. This guy is straight up alt-right trash. Get a grip man.
A lot of the hard eco types are what you call third positionists. They dont fall into any strict left right category. Third Position - Wikipedia
 

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So I guess we should all just completely ignore his manifesto and everything in it?
No lets not ignore it.

From his manifesto:

Why did you carry out the attack?
To most of all show the invaders that our lands will never be their lands, our homelands are our own and that, as long as a white man still lives, they will NEVER conquer our lands and they will never replace our people.
Sounds awfully familiar.
 
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