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Witnesses say many dead, injured in shooting at New Zealand mosque

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Perfect.
 
Cool, those NZ politicians need to import more people who will know how to pretend to like them better.


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The Māori are the natives.

Problem with NZ is that a bunch of of Tony Blair's proteges, including the current PM there, carpetbagged their way into leadership positions and implemented the same electorate shaping through demographic engineering policies as Labour in the UK. They've been importing Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, and Indonesians by the boatload with promises of welfare as long as they vote the right way.
 
excerpts from NYT just now, quoting Jihad Jacinda Ardern -

“Today, I’m announcing New Zealand will ban all military-style semiautomatic weapons...
the guns used in these terrorist attacks had important distinguishing features,” she said at a news conference at Parliament in Wellington, the capital. “First, big capacity, and also their delivery. They had the power to shoot continuously but they also had large capacity magazines.”
“In short, every semiautomatic weapon used in the terror attack on Friday will be banned in this country.”

Ms. Ardern said she expected the new law to be in place by April 11, with the next session of Parliament.

In the interim, as of Thursday afternoon, a change in regulations would alter the licensing rules for the weapons that would eventually be banned, meaning they would require an E Class gun license, which is already much harder to obtain, and that the prime minister said would now be impossible to get.
“I can assure people there is no point in applying for such a permit,” she said.
 
“Today, I’m announcing New Zealand will ban all military-style semiautomatic weapons...“In short, every semiautomatic weapon used in the terror attack on Friday will be banned in this country. ...a change in regulations would alter the licensing rules for the weapons that would eventually be banned, meaning they would require an E Class gun license, which is already much harder to obtain, and that the prime minister said would now be impossible to get. “I can assure people there is no point in applying for such a permit,” she said.

Yes, a *permit* would be impossible to get but not the weapons. The black market will see to that.

So the next mass killer will pay more to acquire weapons that are banned without a permit, incurring additional fines and penalties above and beyond multiple murder charges? Or maybe just use their years of planning to train reloading or sniping with a bolt-action?

Do they think that without the availability of legally obtainable semiautomatic weapons with removable magazines, the violent psychopaths will go into remission and become productive members of society?

Better chance those faint hopes than allow people means of self-defense?

"To owners who have legitimate uses for their guns, I want to reiterate that the actions being announced today are not because of you and are not directed at you," Ardern said. "Our actions, on behalf of all New Zealanders, are directed at making sure this never happens again."

They will just eliminate legitimate uses of your guns. But not directed at you. Directed at your guns. And if it *ever* happens again, we’ll collect those 22s as well.
 
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Looks like they just banned the majority of Semis their with the swoop of a pen. You can’t own them without a special permit and when asked about that permit the response was don’t bother applying. Let’s see how that works out in New Z...
 
Yes, a *permit* would be impossible to get but not the weapons. The black market will see to that.

So the next mass killer will pay more to acquire weapons that are banned without a permit, incurring additional fines and penalties above and beyond multiple murder charges? Or maybe just use their years of planning to train reloading or sniping with a bolt-action?

Do they think that without the availability of legally obtainable semiautomatic weapons with removable magazines, the violent psychopaths will go into remission and become productive members of society?

Better chance those faint hopes than allow people means of self-defense?

"To owners who have legitimate uses for their guns, I want to reiterate that the actions being announced today are not because of you and are not directed at you," Ardern said. "Our actions, on behalf of all New Zealanders, are directed at making sure this never happens again."

They will just eliminate legitimate uses of your guns. But not directed at you. Directed at your guns. And if it *ever* happens again, we’ll collect those 22s as well.


Sounds like NY, CA, MA, CT, OR, RI, IL, etc.
With no pretensions and no Second Amendment.
 
I hope they resist to the point the govt needs to backtrack.

Remember, use this as a learning event.

Know that those that want to ban everything in this country are watching. Know they like blocking of internet sites, know they like the edict method (Maura) and talking about reasonable.

No one on this site (when it happens - and it will) has better turn in even an empty case. Just watch what the next shoe is in NZ if you have questions.
 
so much for freedom of speech, it sounds like Western "democracies" have an ability to go from Democracy to Tyrany in less than 24 hours.

The utter contempt the Civil Service and would be aristocratic political class has for ordinary citizens isn't going to end well with them consistently engineering ways to nullify the power of voting and the equal protection under law.
 
LINK: NZ bans types of semi-automatic weapons, high capacity magazines after mass shooting
... “All semi-automatic weapons used during the terrorist attack on Friday 15 March will be banned."

Ardern said she expects the new laws to be in place by April 11 and a buy-back scheme will be established for banned weapons.

The buyback would cost up to NZ$200 million ($138 million), she said.

All military style semi-automatics (MSSA) and assault rifles would be banned, along with parts used to convert weapons into MSSAs and all high-capacity magazines....

.... and horse-face chimes in: Ocasio-Cortez Praises New Zealand's Weapons Ban
 
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No socialist likes Jordan Peterson. He is not exactly shy about saying socialism and communism are responsible for the most deaths in human history by far.
 
Clarifications on the NZ Ban: A closer look at New Zealand's new weapons ban

WHAT'S BEING BANNED?
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said that "every semi-automatic weapon used in the terrorist attack last Friday will be banned." She said that includes "military-style" semi-automatic firearms and high-capacity magazines.

Ardern said a sales ban was effective immediately to prevent stockpiling and would be followed by a complete ban on the weapons after new laws are rushed through.

The ban includes any semi-automatic guns or shotguns that are capable of being used with a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds. It also extends to accessories used to convert guns into what the government called "military-style" weapons.

WHAT'S NOT BEING BANNED?
The ban does not include semi-automatic .22 caliber or smaller guns that hold up to 10 rounds or semi-automatic and pump-action shotguns with non-detachable magazines that hold up to five rounds. The guns not banned are commonly used by farmers and hunters.

WHAT'S NEXT?
Alpers noted that New Zealand, although it requires handgun registration, "is still the only country apart from the United States and to some degree Canada that doesn't have (firearm) registration as its third pillar of gun control" along with licensing and treating possession as a conditional privilege.

Alpers said rifles and shotguns aren't registered in the country.

He called that "a very important loophole" but said Ardern "has flagged her determination to pursue registration. Whether she'll be able to do it completely or not ... is another question."
 
NZ in few days became $hthole. Mission Accomplished!

They even have their own Dick's:

The country's largest weapons retailer, Hunting & Fishing New Zealand, also supports the ban.

"While we have sold them in the past to a small number of customers, last week's events have forced a reconsideration that has led us to believe such weapons of war have no place in our business or our country," Chief Executive Darren Jacobs said in a statement.
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Imam Gamal Fouda said he is expecting 3,000 to 4,000 people at Friday's prayer service, including many who have come from abroad.
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“New Zealand is a peaceful place, and we have never seen anything like this before,” he said. “Migrants are now getting help — more than anytime before — and showing us support and strength.”
 
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I also do not recall CNN coverage of Germany returning refugees back to Taliban because we have all decided that Taliban is good for us!

Germany deports more Afghan asylum seekers

Germany has deported another group of Afghan asylum seekers back to Kabul. 21 men arrived in the capital on Wednesday morning, bringing the number returned to the country over the past three years to more than 530. Critics say Afghanistan is still too dangerous for the rejected asylum seekers.


The plane from Leipzig landed just after seven a.m. local time. It was the 22nd such group deportation of Afghans since December 2016. The previous flights have brought back a total of 512 Afghan men.

Murtaza Rasouli, the head of legal support for Afghan returnees in the Ministry of Refugees and Repatriations, confirmed to InfoMigrants that the 21 men had arrived safely and some were being accommodated in guest houses. He said they would be returned to their families within the next two days.

Returns controversial

The German government signed a deal with Kabul in 2016 to repatriate Afghans who had failed to obtain asylum. It began deportation flights in December 2016. Rasouli said under the agreement, Germany was acting within its rights to carry out the latest deportation.

The deportations have been very controversial. In July last year, one of a group of 69 men committed suicide after arriving back in the country. The 23-year-old had lived in Germany for eight years before being sent back to Kabul.

A new report by the Danish Refugee Council has found that migrants who are forcibly returned to Afghanistan have problems reintegrating because of depression, anxiety, isolation and stress.
 

No more "what makes sense"! No more bipartisan solutions! We will not move one inch! [thumbsup]

Bernie Sanders 11 hours ago
Bernie Sanders Retweeted The Washington Post

This is what real action to stop gun violence looks like. We must follow New Zealand's lead, take on the NRA and ban the sale and distribution of assault weapons in the United States.
 
Twelve French Churches Attacked, Vandalized in One Week



I'll see your twelve churches, and raise you five mosques...

Birmingham mosque attacks probed by terrorism officers

Councillor John Cotton, cabinet member for social inclusion, community safety and equalities with Birmingham City Council, said he was "appalled" by the violence and was working with police to find those responsible.

Chaos is near. You just need to make sure you do not end up with other sheep in the pen surrounded by sheepdogs.

Nowadays it takes almost 50 years to get the truth about anything. So, we are living what somebody else is programming for us and most of us do not care anymore.

Here is one recent example of slowly getting the facts rights. Not there yet, either!
Former suspected Stasi agents questioned in Berlin over Lockerbie bombing | DW | 21.03.2019
Prosecutors "received legal requests from Scotland" over the case and ended up questioning "several suspected Stasi employees" in Berlin, they said on Twitter.
According to a report from the German daily Bild, Scottish investigators are probing whether Stasi agents were involved in or had knowledge of the terror plot that brought down Pan Am Flight 103.
 
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No one on this site (when it happens - and it will) has better turn in even an empty case. Just watch what the next shoe is in NZ if you have questions.

We will never see or hear about the next shoe. Oppressive government and media blackout will see to that.
 
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