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You just called every NESr's wife a slut! Nicely done.. nicely done.
Point well taken, and spot on. I was just bustin balls and I should not have, I apologize.That wasn’t my intent, I would never disrespect anyone’s wife or family member. It’s just a point that I strongly believe in that cheating is always a possibility. I’ve cheated and been cheated on, lucky for me I don’t have any kids nor have I ever allowed my self to be emotionally dependent on a woman or cared enough to let it devestate me, when I got “Cheated” on we both checked out of the relationship without the red tape and officially done the break up thing at that point so it was not a big deal. I definitely admire people that can have long sustained relationships and the work it takes for both parties to keep it that way, I have friends that are happily married but I know one of them have strayed and the other doesn’t have a clue. I’m not saying that’s the norm by any stretch but the potential will always be there. The biggest problem I see is social media, it makes connections so easy without getting drunk and hitting a bar and bumping into a long lost love from years ago. Shit happens, relationships are very tough and can be quirky at times. I enjoy a relationship I just don’t ever “Go all in” with a Woman and leave myself no emotional “Outs”
No apologies necessary, I didn’t get offended I actually laughed when you posted that I just wanted to be clear I wasn’t making a blanket statement about everyone. And what your saying goes both ways, there are times I wish I settled down with someone and did the family thing but bottom line I don’t trust myself to be faithful, I can’t stop chasing woman for sport. Either way hopefully the OP takes the good advice some of us have given him and not listened to some of the pathetic suggestions in this thread.Point well taken, and spot on. I was just bustin balls and I should not have, I apologize.
Trust me, those of us who have been in long marriages have our moments where we envy people in your position, I think it is human nature to wonder "what if." A few times a year, I stop and think " Damn, if I had never been married and had kids, life would sure be different."
I never cheated on my wife,(public forum and all) and to the best of my knowledge, she has never has, but I suppose your right, there really is no way to know.
I dated a lot before I got married, so didn't feel I had missed out, and we had kids right away. Cheating would have been more than cheating on my wife, it would have been cheating on my kids too, and ruining every ones life.
So what gets me about this is that you pointed out that neither of you are financially dependent upon the other, and that changes everything.She agreed to full transparency gave her phone and password as well as phone bill. I’m still not sure what to do, Considering staying at parents for a few nights.
That is some impressive self awareness. Most of us lie to ourselves and convince ourselves we can settle down.And what your saying goes both ways, there are times I wish I settled down with someone and did the family thing but bottom line I don’t trust myself to be faithful, I can’t stop chasing woman for sport.
Just because you can check doesn't mean you have to. That's your choice.I'm coming around to the fact that I don't want a wife that I need to check her phone, iPad, credit card, car gps I don't want use VAR's I don't want to ask for a polygraph. Full transparency what is that? Delete text messages, get a burner, call this looser from your work phone, get a pre paid credit card. People told me to write a no contact letter to this creep, ya right send the letter then call him from your burner 5 minutes later an say don't worry my husband is a chump.
Nail on the head. My wife and I have each others passwords for convenience in case, for example, she wants me to check a text from her if she's in the other room (etc.) and we have find a friend (like I think it was Fencer who mentioned pages ago) because sometimes it's convenient and it's also a safety thing as far as I'm concerned. But snooping on the phone to make sure she's staying in line doesn't enter my mind. Either trust her and give it a real shot (with the help of a counselor who MIGHT be able to help you build trust again) or get out. Again for me it mostly comes back to kids. If you have any and they're young I wouldn't be too quick to throw in the towel. If you don't have kids just cut your losses and move on (since that's what it seems you want to do anyway).Just because you can check doesn't mean you have to. That's your choice.
Seems to me you've made up your mind that rebuilding trust with your wife is too hard and you just want out. Good luck, now, and in your future relationship(s).
Over and out.
let me just drop this here: Have a couple who are good friends, were married for 43 years. He gets horny, starts thinking she was disrespecting him, got some bad advice from a couple of his friends, went for counseling and the clown convinced him he NEEDED to divorce her. Out of the blue he leaves, she is shocked and devastated. Moves to vermont, shacks up with some honey he had been texting with. Does the entire sex revival thing...but then quickly finds out his new honey has "issues". about 6 months in, he had moved out of her place and had his own appartment. about 12 months in, he returns home to his original wife, and they start living together. Now about 24 months into it all, they announce they are getting remarried.
Sometimes "counseling" can screw you up worse. If he had shopped around, and found a counselor who just suggested he buy a porsche and go on a 4 week road trip to see America, he would have been MUCH better off!
Kinda like you can't describe it but you know it when you see it?I read "emotional relationship" as meaning a semi-deep, maybe romantic, maybe flirty, but largely conversational relationship, as distinguished from the obvious opposite, the good old fashioned "physical relationship." The cynic in me guesses that the Mrs. got caught, but she didn't get caught in flagrante, so this "emotional relationship" stuff is the attempt to explain it away.