Why The GOP Will Never Cut The Size Of Government

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The end will come not with a bang but with the stark realization that the desires that gave rise to this new class of right leaning politicians and allowed them to ride a wave of lower deficits, budget cuts and small government into cushy federal jobs, were not what the people really want after all.
http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2010/10/17/why-the-gop-will-never-cut-the-size-of-government/

According to this poll, 91% of Tea Partiers want a smaller government with fewer services. Despite this hostility to big government, 62% of Tea Partiers believe that Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are worth the cost (apparently no one bothered to tell them that Social Security and Medicare are evil Godless socialist programs).
This one thing alone is enough to make me want to rip the wind pipe out of so called "fiscal conservatives" when I see them complain on TV about Obama care. Sure Obama care sucks, but most of these asses are sucking from the gov't teat already. And they either are too stupid to realize that, or are totally disingenuous about it.
 
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Once "people" have something its hard to take it away. Thats the premise of marketing, look at Stonypetes cell phone thread. Think if we didnt have the second in "writing" in this country. Remember the DOD used to be the DOWar! but it just did'nt sound "nice". I think the link is biased lib leaning, the GOP will maintain, not grow government rampantly like the nanny state Democratic Feds. Their all crooks, just like the bloods and crypts, ones red, ones blue!
 

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Once established, the sole purpose of a government agency or program is to prepetuate and expand itself. I still remember my dad's comment when the Dept. of Health, Education and Welfare was established. He said "Oh gawd, now they'll ensure there will always be plenty of sick, dumb and poore people."
 

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Well there you have it. Like I've been saying this cannot be fixed via the ballot box.
Part of the problem is that much of the older generation actually views that garbage as an investment, and they fell into the trap of the government deceiving them into thinking that it was actually such a thing. Those of us under 50 or so probably won't care much about it being eliminated, but everyone in the brackets above that, are going to be saying "Bbbbut the government took that money from me with the promise that I would get it back eventually... " They've been self-deluded into thinking that Social Security and FICA were something other than just another form of income tax.

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They've been self-deluded into thinking that Social Security and FICA were something other than just another form of income tax.
Yup. Most people believe that all of their SS contributions went into some special fund, and that they're waiting there for them to retire. What they don't realize is that SS is actually a single name for two distinct things: a tax program and a welfare program.


Here's a good summary of things for anybody who's interested:

http://mises.org/daily/949

Workers and their families have no legal claim, grounded in the Fifth Amendment or elsewhere, on the FICA tax payments that they make into the U.S. Treasury, or that are made on their behalf. Those funds are gone, commingled with the general assets of the U.S. government and fully available for purposes unrelated to Social Security. Being mere welfare recipients--not creditors or holders of equitable property rights--workers have hopes or expectations of future benefits, but no enforceable rights to them.
 
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Yup. Most people believe that all of their SS contributions went into some special fund, and that they're waiting there for them to retire. What they don't realize is that SS is actually a single name for two distinct things: a tax program and a welfare program.
And like Bernie Madoff's investment funds, social security payouts come right out of the contributions of the next set of investors.

By its very nature, social security is the largest (and longest running) ponzi style investment scheme this country has ever seen.
 

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Yup. Most people believe that all of their SS contributions went into some special fund, and that they're waiting there for them to retire. What they don't realize is that SS is actually a single name for two distinct things: a tax program and a welfare program.
SS is nothing but a Ponzi scheme of epic proportions. The only difference between the people that trusted their money with Bernie Madoff and those paying into the SS system, is the ones that gave their money to Madoff had a CHOICE in the matter.
 
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You guys make me laugh! Back to the 'ol republicans are good, democrats are bad kind of thinking, huh?

You're playing right in to their hands you know.
 
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