1. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for a NES Membership  The benefits pay for the membership many times over.

  2. Dismiss Notice

Why are cleaning patch so popular in the U.S.?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by sbi, Mar 7, 2019.

  1. sbi

    sbi NES Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2013
    Messages:
    2,489
    Likes Received:
    825
    To answer your questions:

    1. The patches don't absorb as the cotton/flannel roll. Not even close.
    2. With the patches, you are limited to the size of the patch you use and more often than not it's just not enough. Sure, you can grab another one, but that's where it becomes annoying.
    3. No need to sit and cut patches from the roll, like making an 'event' out of it, devoting time to it. You just tear a piece with your hand to the size that you need. It takes half a second.
    4. You'll probably use less material from the roll than patches in each cleaning cycle.
    5. Snake - tried it before, wasn't impressed. I don't have the feeling you can accomplish a perfect cleaning job with it. Maybe in the field, a quick run, but not a perfect cleaning.
     

  2. terraformer

    terraformer NES Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2008
    Messages:
    16,788
    Likes Received:
    2,146
    People clean their guns???? :confused:
     
    GunGuy2014, dingbat, MGnoob and 2 others like this.
  3. atmay

    atmay

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2007
    Messages:
    8,362
    Likes Received:
    1,407
    Location:
    Free 'murica
    This is where I’m coming from.

    I have a boresnake that gets run through the barrel if it looks extra dirty. (btw, guys...you can clean boresnakes). Sometimes if the action noticeably starts to drag, I’ll de-carbon and lube.

    I think y’all just put too much effort into this.
     
    MGnoob and drgrant like this.
  4. Dradian

    Dradian

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2011
    Messages:
    1,385
    Likes Received:
    274
    Location:
    Goffstown, NH
    old shirts
     
  5. MP-In-The-Wind

    MP-In-The-Wind NES Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,150
    Likes Received:
    268
    I buy 2 yards of white flannel at the fabric store...cheap, and it lasts for quite a while...
     
  6. CLW42

    CLW42 NES Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2012
    Messages:
    942
    Likes Received:
    161
    I just bought some new waffely patches...they're nice...extra scrubby!

    And I like turtles.
     
    AHM likes this.
  7. mac1911

    mac1911 NES Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2008
    Messages:
    24,596
    Likes Received:
    2,978
    Ok until I see the test data on absorbtion rate I’m not buying it.
    Also the fact it tears so easy could be a problem. If you used a jag it would probably push right through it.
    Now if this stuff was 1/2 the price I might consider a roll
     
  8. badshot101

    badshot101 NES Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2013
    Messages:
    176
    Likes Received:
    17
    Not sure why anyone uses a bore snake on any gun they actually care about - you're dragging the crap from the last 20 cleanings through your bore. Much rather use clean patches.
     
    AHM and btnh6668 like this.
  9. drgrant

    drgrant Moderator NES Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2006
    Messages:
    63,421
    Likes Received:
    17,295
    I smell a few people in this thread who probably clean their guns too much.....
    Like Atmay says you can clean them... plus I use it more as a device to just wipe out whatever leftover cleaner/lube/whatever might be left at the end of the process. I've never heard of one "damaging' a barrel.

    Some of you guys are wrapped waaaaaaaay too tight about cleaning guns.

    -Mike
     
    AHM, jek, BUMPA01603 and 2 others like this.
  10. Broccoli Iglesias

    Broccoli Iglesias

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2010
    Messages:
    17,246
    Likes Received:
    3,982
    Location:
    Suckachusetts
    I shoot A LOT of BP. Not a single one of my muskets or 45/70 guns has had issues with regular patches and absorption.

    Regular patches absorb any solvents you might use. Then use a nice coat of oil and done.

    You can also use hot water down the barrel. It works great on muskets. Do that, some oil, done.

    This looks like it would be cheaper to manufacture than having patches cut to size, yet, companies sell pre-cut patches. There is a reason for that.
     
  11. atmay

    atmay

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2007
    Messages:
    8,362
    Likes Received:
    1,407
    Location:
    Free 'murica
    20 cleanings? Why would I wait 15 years before replacing the damn thing? They aren’t that expensive.

    And as I said earlier; they can be cleaned/washed.
     
  12. Broccoli Iglesias

    Broccoli Iglesias

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2010
    Messages:
    17,246
    Likes Received:
    3,982
    Location:
    Suckachusetts
    You are too proactive. I just cleaned one of the guns I used at the 2011 Porsche shoot.

    NO RUST.
     
    Mesatchornug, drgrant and atmay like this.
  13. teaser452

    teaser452

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Messages:
    2,646
    Likes Received:
    996
    Location:
    NC defending a beach
    Yup. My grand pappy told me that during the Nazi killing fest, they spent 16 hours a day cleaning their rifles and just 1 hour a day shooting them damn Nazis.

    Can’t shoot a dirty gun! That’s just unsanitary!
     
    drgrant and atmay like this.
  14. DPR

    DPR NES Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2016
    Messages:
    785
    Likes Received:
    466
    Location:
    South Shore
    Ha! I love the boresnake haters, maybe try washing them once every couple years. Or worse, pry some nickels out of your wallet and buy a new one.
     
    atmay and drgrant like this.
  15. sieveboy

    sieveboy NES Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2005
    Messages:
    1,850
    Likes Received:
    670
    Location:
    Franklin, MA
    I like them pre-cut. I usually have the cleaning rod in one hand and want to just pick another one up.
     
  16. badshot101

    badshot101 NES Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2013
    Messages:
    176
    Likes Received:
    17
    Yes, because we compete with them, and when a gun goes from shooting 1/2" groups to 3/4" groups its a problem. Or if you are a benchrest guy, when it goes from .200 to .300 groups...
     
  17. badshot101

    badshot101 NES Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2013
    Messages:
    176
    Likes Received:
    17
    Your reality and mine are very different. An average year of highpower practice and competition has me shooting 3k+ rounds, and cleaning every few hundred rounds
     
  18. babygorilla

    babygorilla NES Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2015
    Messages:
    1,891
    Likes Received:
    624
    Location:
    South Shore of Massachusetts
    Wait, you guys clean your guns?!?!?
     
  19. MarkT

    MarkT NES Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2013
    Messages:
    4,148
    Likes Received:
    914
    Location:
    Earth
    This. I also like those big ass Q tips, and bore snakes.
     
    fencer likes this.
  20. enbloc

    enbloc NES Life Member NES Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2009
    Messages:
    15,503
    Likes Received:
    12,986
    I only use 300 thread count Egyptian Cotton patches with a sateen weave from Giza on my gun barrels... From My Barrel.com They're worth it!

    [​IMG]
     
    AHM, meh and fencer like this.
  21. DPR

    DPR NES Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2016
    Messages:
    785
    Likes Received:
    466
    Location:
    South Shore
    Even better, at your rate they’ll last twice as long without needing cleaning.
     
  22. whacko

    whacko NES Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2012
    Messages:
    8,064
    Likes Received:
    3,178
    What are you trying to absorb? Are we wiping vaginas or cleaning guns?
     
    AHM, pepperoni and drgrant like this.
  23. drgrant

    drgrant Moderator NES Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2006
    Messages:
    63,421
    Likes Received:
    17,295
    I get it, when you compete you want things to work a certain way etc. However, for most shooters, and most occasions, this isn't an issue in practical terms,
    and incessant cleaning is pretty much a waste of time, unless we're talking about stuff like BP or corrosive ammo where the gun will literally start rotting if it's not
    cleaned immediately.

    Many years ago I used to be "one of those people" who burned up 1-2 hours cleaning everything meticulously after every range trip, even refusing to take out "dirty" guns again on the next range trip until they were cleaned. But then I quickly figured out (for what I do) its stupid and total f***ing waste of time in most cases. The only guns that I'm hyper vigilant about now are ones that are potentially lifesaving devices, and even then, its more about functional clean (eg, is the gun clean enough to work reliably without question?) than it is going FR on cosmetics. I don't have any need to sit there running 48 patches down the bore of my AR after the bolt and chamber are clean enough... or wasting time scraping carbon off the tail of the bolt carrier when it doesn't really affect function.

    -Mike
     
  24. btnh6668

    btnh6668 NES Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2008
    Messages:
    957
    Likes Received:
    62
    Location:
    Southcoast
    9 out of 10 items will always work better when clean. Ill take my chances "wasting" time to keep something clean. No matter if its my car, gun, sump pump, the inside of my computer, or even my lawn mower. I know that if i maintain and keep them clean that my chances of failure is decreased. Time is better wasted than money.
     
  25. atmay

    atmay

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2007
    Messages:
    8,362
    Likes Received:
    1,407
    Location:
    Free 'murica
    Do you change your cars oil every time you drive it?
     
  26. fencer

    fencer NES Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Messages:
    10,405
    Likes Received:
    5,659
    Location:
    Southeastern Mass
    How on earth do you think we are cutting up these old T shirts? Riiiip---fold - snip snip snip = 12 patches in the time it took to read that. Are some of you guys measuring and cutting individual patches? They work great, and for all intents and purposes, are free. Besides,


    Yep, and if I cut them a little big you just ram that sucker through.
     
  27. watchman

    watchman

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2013
    Messages:
    1,220
    Likes Received:
    476
    You have not swayed me I could have sat quietly away from the bride, drank a beer and read another thread on NES all while you toiled away cutting and folding. I leave the laundry to the wife.
     
    teaser452 and fencer like this.
  28. Dadstoys

    Dadstoys NES Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2012
    Messages:
    12,114
    Likes Received:
    5,690
    Location:
    North Shore
    I haven't gotten to tight on time or money that the extra 10 seconds it takes to rip some patches up from an old set of flannel sheet is going to affect my life.
     
  29. btnh6668

    btnh6668 NES Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2008
    Messages:
    957
    Likes Received:
    62
    Location:
    Southcoast
    If i could afford too.
     
  30. fencer

    fencer NES Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Messages:
    10,405
    Likes Received:
    5,659
    Location:
    Southeastern Mass
    Ohhh, you must using the old kindergarde safety scissors. Do they not let you use sharp and pointy things. [laugh][laugh]
     
    watchman likes this.

Share This Page