Who's ready for "Fire" in your preparation plan?

Turn off outside spigots in the basement to prevent one of the bad guys from accessing water should they inadvertently catch fire to their clothing.
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I'm kind of F'd if my building catches fire. I'm about 80' up. If both stairwells were to catch fire, it's pretty much game over. I've actually (and maybe crazily?) considered looking into repelling gear just in case.
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I'm kind of F'd if my building catches fire. I'm about 80' up. If both stairwells were to catch fire, it's pretty much game over. I've actually (and maybe crazily?) considered looking into repelling gear just in case.
What do you have available for an anchor? How would you handle flames from windows you have to repel over or by? What sort of line could be used that will not melt when exposed to the heat of flames?

Not suggesting you don’t pursue the idea, just trying to trouble shoot.
 
That's a joke right? Most faucets today are fed with a 1/4 or 3/8 diameter hose so your flow rate is 1or2 GPM. You'd be better off pissing on it if you're young. [banghead]

I have a "few" ABC, BC and loaded stream extinguishers in both MA and ME.
I'm seriously thinking of a 1" feed right off my well pump in ME as that pump is a constant pressure arrangement set for 65PSI. The well pump is 20GPM. It would easily handle a small smooth bore nozzle.

A loaded stream is a serious fighting tool IF you can get the fire contained while it is small.

First, ditch those flow restrictors in your faucets.

Next, a hose is useful if the fire is small or outside. If the fire is big, yoy need to get out because the smoke will f*** you immediately. A couple breaths of burning synthetic items will put you down.

Last if you have a well pump and hook up at the feed line before the pressure tank, the lint should be large to the tank, then reduced down to feed the house. My house line is 1-1/4" and my well pump can send 80ish gpm which would only be restricted by the 3/4" contractor hose I have.

I also have a fire pond above my house. I just need a fire truck to turn into a prepper rig.....
 
I'm kind of F'd if my building catches fire. I'm about 80' up. If both stairwells were to catch fire, it's pretty much game over. I've actually (and maybe crazily?) considered looking into repelling gear just in case.

Rappelling is super fun and will get you down safely, as long as you have the right set up and practice (like at the Quincy Quarries, not out your window). Is your building sprinklered? 8 floors worth of people cramming into the 2 stairwells to get out of the building will be a sh*tshow.
 
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If your house is on fire, your going to have limited time to prioritize getting family out FIRST unless it’s something you can put out with a fire extinguisher or it’s contained to a small area but in my line of thinking if a mob mentality is to burn shit and your in their crosshairs it’s going to be multiple flash points and your going to have to GTFO. This is where a “Go Bag” comes in handy, I keep a set up of gear ( everyone’s gear bag is different ) in my truck full time, if I had to bounce out of my house I still have the capabilities to defend myself and loved ones.

Outside of mob mentality attack, smoke and CO detectors and a Fire extinguisher is my line of defense.
 
80’ descent is not that high on ropes, few seconds at most til ground comes up and you brake, even if you’re bounding or braking all the way down. A good steel beam kept in a closet with the harness kit should suffice for a short one time use across the window frame and wall. Just ease yourself out and tension the rope at first to maintain stability and not rip the window frame out.
 
What do you have available for an anchor? How would you handle flames from windows you have to repel over or by? What sort of line could be used that will not melt when exposed to the heat of flames?

Not suggesting you don’t pursue the idea, just trying to trouble shoot.

Not sure and no idea? lol. So far, it's just a passing paranoia, but ultimately, it is kind of a real question. Oh--and thanks @AHM for the "repel/rappel" clarification.

I have a concrete balcony. Unsure of how it is supported, but given the railing bolt stress cracks I've seen, I most likely wouldn't tie-off from the railings. It's an old brutalist style building, so the balcony has partial concrete walls on both sides with square holes in the middle. Maybe tie off there? As for the rest, I've never really looked into rappelling gear at all, let along fire resistant versions. Maybe I'll just buy a large umbrella instead and go Marry Poppins?
 
I have fire extinguishers, thoughout house, one next to bed. Rope ladder in second floor bedroom. Hopefully enough to get out, then I would have to watch it burn. Important docs in a fire resistant safe that is in a fire resistant safe.....
 
Fire bombing becomes a real life threat to you and your family
if socialist mob attacks your dwelling, the expectation is for you to be burned alive.
any attempts to escape and avoid social justice will not be tolerated and you'll be prosecuted to a full extent of the law (to be made up by prosecutors).

to be realistic - the only way to survive the mob is not to antagonize it, if they come through with molotovs and you sit in the paper house.
 
Rapelling is super fun and will get you down safely, as long as you have the right set up and practice (like at the Quincy Quarries, not out your window). Is your building sprinklered? 8 floors worth of people cramming into the 2 stairwells to get out of the building will be a sh*tshow.

Sprinklered building. Looks like a retrofit considering the opening pipping instead of soffits and nice recessed ceiling fixtures. Seems like we get at least 1 false alarm every 6 months or so, so I've seen that sh*tshow first hand of all 11 residential floors over 1 commercial floor trying to exit by foot all at the same time. Stairwells are not sprinklered, but are CMU block and metal/concrete stairs (brutalist style). Dark as F with emergency lighting though, so flashlights a must.
 
Not sure and no idea? lol. So far, it's just a passing paranoia, but ultimately, it is kind of a real question. Oh--and thanks @AHM for the "repel/rappel" clarification.

I have a concrete balcony. Unsure of how it is supported, but given the railing bolt stress cracks I've seen, I most likely wouldn't tie-off from the railings. It's an old brutalist style building, so the balcony has partial concrete walls on both sides with square holes in the middle. Maybe tie off there? As for the rest, I've never really looked into rappelling gear at all, let along fire resistant versions. Maybe I'll just buy a large umbrella instead and go Marry Poppins?
Considering this it’s probably better to just beat feet to the ground any way you can. Fire extinguisher, soaked wool blanket, and handgun.
 
80’ descent is not that high on ropes, few seconds at most til ground comes up and you brake, even if you’re bounding or braking all the way down. A good steel beam kept in a closet with the harness kit should suffice for a short one time use across the window frame and wall. Just ease yourself out and tension the rope at first to maintain stability and not rip the window frame out.
even easier is to mount an anchor to the bed frame...and then you have hard point on your bed frame.
 
That might be the most practical answer. Maybe a fire resistant blanket?
the wool is already fire resistant (mostly because its dense weave makes it tough to catch, and it's an insulator). soaking it is a fantastic second step. Before everybody got hard for commando cloth, this is exactly what we used as fire performers. (there was a period folks were using soaked cotton towels, fine as a second best, but easier to get steam burns if exposed to the heat for too long)
 
I'm in a nice neighborhood where this is pretty far from any real consideration. I have three water hoses and am on well (not town) water. I've also got a pool I could drain with buckets or a pump & hose.

But honestly, if someone wants to burn my house down, the firefighters will have to step over that guy's dead body in order to put out the fire.
 
Problem is if you get burned and there's not a rapid evac or hospital available, the burns will kill you in short order. It's not practical to carry a mini-fire extinguisher in your battle rattle kit like riot cops sometimes do if loaded down with ammo. I guess you can carry one in a vehicle and have them available in your home. But other than that and a burn dressing, if someone's throwing fire at you the best bet is to get out of the way/run/nope the Hell out of there.
 
Fire is a lethal weapon. If you are being attacked with fire and your home, step one is to eliminate the lethal threat. That means bucking down every mother f***** with a movtov cocktail in his hand with multiple rounds from the AR... Ideally before they firebomb your house...

If they're throwing fire bombs at your house, chances are the impact zone is going to be outside. They'll catch the siding or shingling on fire requiring you to go outside to deal with it... You can't have any threats around when that happens.

I also don't know that a fire extinguisher would be sufficient... Especially if the house is multiple stories. A garden hose is probably your best bet at that point...
 
Not sure and no idea? lol. So far, it's just a passing paranoia, but ultimately, it is kind of a real question. Oh--and thanks @AHM for the "repel/rappel" clarification.

I have a concrete balcony. Unsure of how it is supported, but given the railing bolt stress cracks I've seen, I most likely wouldn't tie-off from the railings. It's an old brutalist style building, so the balcony has partial concrete walls on both sides with square holes in the middle. Maybe tie off there? As for the rest, I've never really looked into rappelling gear at all, let along fire resistant versions. Maybe I'll just buy a large umbrella instead and go Marry Poppins?

That is actually ideal. The concrete balconies will hold you away from the building and likely not be catching on fire any time soon, so you will not have flames licking at you and your rope. You can soak the rope first, though, if that is the case, to delay burn through. A wet rope is not significantly more difficult to rap down with a proper rappelling device. Tying off through the square holes in the concrete will be bomber. Just don't tie off on the sketchy railings.
 
This thread reminded me of the video from NY just about 2 weeks ago where some shitbird tossed a cocktail into that deli. Instant fire everywhere in there.
 
A rioting mob is not the only scenario, so even people who don't dwell in cities or nearby suburbs need to worry. Burning a home is a powerful terror weapon.
 
That is actually ideal. The concrete balconies will hold you away from the building and likely not be catching on fire any time soon, so you will not have flames licking at you and your rope. You can soak the rope first, though, if that is the case, to delay burn through. A wet rope is not significantly more difficult to rap down with a proper rappelling device. Tying off through the square holes in the concrete will be bomber. Just don't tie off on the sketchy railings.

The more I think about it, the more a wet wool blanket sounds far more my speed than a full on Mission Impossible scene considering my lack of experience. Either than or jumping out the balcony in one of these

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The more I think about it, the more a wet wool blanket sounds far more my speed than a full on Mission Impossible scene considering my lack of experience. Either than or jumping out the balcony in one of these

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Whereas I'm now wanting an NES get together at the Quincy quarries where we can skill share and practice rappelling.

Followed by beers. Because sometimes order of operation is still important, and training while impaired is well into the area of Type 2 fun (quickly becoming Type 3)
 
Whereas I'm now wanting an NES get together at the Quincy quarries where we can skill share and practice rappelling.

Followed by beers. Because sometimes order of operation is still important, and training while impaired is well into the area of Type 2 fun (quickly becoming Type 3)
I still have a harness and two 100’ lengths of good quality rope. Haven’t used them in years but they’re stored upstairs and still in good shape.
 
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