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Which Kel Tec Sub 2000????
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Roger that. Very well machined.
BUMPA01603
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I got a bronze G17/19 from Ryan a few weeks ago, you can't go wrong. It takes 33 round Scherer sticks and it is well built and lightweight at the same time and pretty accurate right out of the box. Fits in a backpack, which is its best feature. Not sure if it's really worth putting optics on?
mikelawtown
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When 1st came out and you had the G version you can sell them for a mint
I had three of them and added cheek pad Red dot, but I just could not get used to shooting it I’m sure he wants a lot of money because of the pre-ban mags
Varmint
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I still want the MPX for 4 times the money, cause Sig.
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Has anyone owned a Sub2k and a Ruger pcc or Beretta storm? (or any combo of the three) Just curious if anyone has spent time shooting both and has a preference. Look like fun little guns although plasticy and ugly. Would like to hear a comparison from someone who has done a good amount of shooting with more than one.
DarthRevan
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I've shot the Sub2k and bought the CX4.
I cant squish my face low enough on the Sub2k to see the sights proper.
They're both fun for what they are, triggers leave much to be desired, but the Beretta one is definitely built better. However the big up side to the 2k is it folds up nice.
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What he said. It’s worth more as a package
Hetzer
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I've had several CX4's and Sub 2000's and own both now. The CX4 is much more ergonomic and more fun to shoot but they're both fun and they both just work.
I prefer shooting the CX4 and it has better controls like the charging handle and the safety (the sub 2k pushes left to right for fire) but the size and weight of the Sub2k is just nothing.
I've only held the Ruger but I love the sights.
Varmint
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This seems like a decent competitor for backpack or trunk, since you can now shoulder it legally.
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Wow, that’s a cool little stock setup. I may have to pickup a “Block” just to have a host for one of those!
I still have my original gen 1 sub2000 and love it. Mine was the Berretta version, and has the optional butt extension and quad rail that KT used to sell for that gen. Been thinking about picking up the new model, but will most likely stick with the Beretta compatible one since I have so many pre-bans already. Like others have mentioned, the ergo is a bit funky to get used to, but it definitely serves a purpose, and fills a niche in the compact nature of it. It’s the ideal go-bag rifle, especially if you have a matching side arm to share mags with. It’s also super light, which is a big advantage when you are on the move (where you’d need a go-bag).
The CZ scorpion is half the price and easier to maintain.
The problem with both the MPX and scorpion is that you are supposed to pin the stock which invariably eliminates half of the reason you would get one. I love beretta too but the CX4 storm is too... well the styling is gay.
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I have to admit. I don’t get these at all.
It’s like let’s make a glock bigger and heavier with all kinds of plastic bullshit so I can look like a starship trooper.
DarthRevan
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It's all about getting around owning a non-NFA "not SBR", that's it.
Varmint
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It’s about having a much longer sight radius and being able to shoulder it. Keep it in your trunk or backpack, you don’t have to even lock it in Mass.
Yeah your first shot from a G19 might be just as accurate but I think follow up shots would be greatly improved with this device. I think they're $250-300 so it’s not a huge cost.
I’d rather have an SBR in 5.56 but you know, it’s an option.
Hetzer
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Got this from Ryan at Frontier Armory on Saturday. Great guy to buy from and I think he came in on Saturday just for the sale. Don't hesitate to buy one of the ones he has posted here, especially at $424.00 after taxes.
Forgive the terrible pictures, I usually take better but these suck, you can barely tell it's OD Green.
Forgive the terrible pictures, I usually take better but these suck, you can barely tell it's OD Green.
Hetzer
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And MCARBO, Tacticool Products and Tandemkross too.
MCARBO in particular has a great selection of upgrades like trigger and spring kits, charging handles and a muzzle brake.
tuna
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No love on here for Hi-Point?
I'm usually a Ruger Fanboy, and I just don't like the new carbine. I'm not a fan of synthetic stocks in general, and this feels too butt-light (is that even a term?).
I haven't looked at the Beretta, but I've compared the Hi-Point and Kel-Tec, and the HP feels a lot better in my hands, and mounts to my shoulder easier as well. I'm looking at the HP in 9mm pretty hard, but something keeps telling me not to.
I'm usually a Ruger Fanboy, and I just don't like the new carbine. I'm not a fan of synthetic stocks in general, and this feels too butt-light (is that even a term?).
I haven't looked at the Beretta, but I've compared the Hi-Point and Kel-Tec, and the HP feels a lot better in my hands, and mounts to my shoulder easier as well. I'm looking at the HP in 9mm pretty hard, but something keeps telling me not to.
How was the install? The videos I watched seem to be good but the actual process seems like a bitch.
did you change out the trigger bar as well. It seems they M Carbo has a whole Trigger package but the trigger bar is still separate. Weird.
