1. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for a NES Membership  The benefits pay for the membership many times over.

  2. Dismiss Notice

Which "Free State" AR to buy?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Radtekk, Aug 14, 2019 at 6:28 PM.

  1. Radtekk

    Radtekk NES Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2011
    Messages:
    7,934
    Likes Received:
    5,243
    Location:
    Chelmsford MA
    As I have mentioned, I'm moving to Tennessee shortly. The house is purchased and closed, notice has been given at work, packing has commenced. We roll out of MA on September 20th or 21st, arriving in Jefferson City a few days later. Bud's Gun Shop is 22 minutes from my house. I'll be buying more than one rifle from them VERY shortly after we arrive. All I need to pick up is a Tennessee Driver's License, which will be my first order of business after parking the truck.

    I have a couple of AR's (A Windham and an M&P Sport II) and a WASR. I'm NOT adding a caliber, at least not yet. I'm not a smith or builder, have yet to even put a trigger in a gun myself. Tinkering just isn't my thing. I'm going to add another basic WASR just cuz, probably straight stock, not folding. Generics run $6-700 down there. No advice needed there.

    Here's the question... WHICH brand of AR should I buy? My Windham is dialed in, shoots 1" groups at 100 yards. Not changing a thing on it. Lady Radtekk's M&P Sport II works well enough for her, she's more of a pistol gal anyway. I want a couple of decent quality, dead nuts reliable AR's I can buy, break in, site in, and put away for "one day". I don't want to spend $1500 on a gun I may shoot a magazine through once a year to "prove zero", or one that's cheap but needs to be maintained every week or parts will mysteriously fall off. So, what's a good, reliable, reasonably accurate (yes, I know the gun is more accurate than the shooter) AR platform gun for decent money? And yes, I'm also familiar with "Buy once, cry once" as a quality philosophy:)
     
    TrashcanDan likes this.

  2. Sully

    Sully

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2009
    Messages:
    848
    Likes Received:
    100
    Location:
    MA
    Leave your presumably neutered ARs behind enemy lines in MA with a FTF sale, take the cash with you to TN and upgrade.

    Sorry, not much help on what to buy, though.
     
  3. mikelawtown

    mikelawtown NES Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    6,741
    Likes Received:
    1,887
    Location:
    Mass Blah Blah Blah
  4. enbloc

    enbloc NES Life Member NES Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2009
    Messages:
    17,001
    Likes Received:
    15,802
    I suggest keeping your Mass AR just in case you come back to live here. You would not be able to replace it... easily.

    "Never say Never..."

    You could always add a "flash-hider" to your Windham...

    On that note, I vote "Class III for Tennessee!"
     
  5. Duxprep

    Duxprep NES Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2007
    Messages:
    1,424
    Likes Received:
    518
    Location:
    Awaiting Prosecution
    How about BCM or Daniel Defense? Daniel defense is in Savannah Georgia. You could just drive on over and pick one up
     
    Roadglide and mikelawtown like this.
  6. slap shot

    slap shot NES Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2013
    Messages:
    11,480
    Likes Received:
    5,202
    Location:
    NH
    My only assembled AR I bought after leaving mass is the Springfield Saint with free float barrel. I’ve built 2 other rifles and 3 other pistols in various calibers but I love the Saint AR. Great stock, trigger, accuracy, reliability etc
     
    mikelawtown likes this.
  7. Al-Jim19

    Al-Jim19

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2013
    Messages:
    2,277
    Likes Received:
    707
    Recently I handled a Knights Armament SR15 and SR25. If I won the lotto it’s what I’d grab. They were the tits, and they’re owned by someone whose opinion I’d put stock in.

    If you want something a little more reasonably priced I have a thing for Colts. The same guy also owns one of those.

    If you want something quality that might be even a bit more reasonably priced BCM makes great stuff. Whip up a home brew lower and slap a BCM upper on it and let freedom ring through the Tennessee hills.
     
    jrpascucci and Mass-diver like this.
  8. boscru

    boscru NES Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2013
    Messages:
    2,270
    Likes Received:
    466
    Location:
    brockton & fall river
  9. Mass-diver

    Mass-diver NES Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2006
    Messages:
    5,666
    Likes Received:
    787
    Location:
    South Shore, MA
    Hard to go wrong with a colt.
     
    Grendizer138, M60 and bgoum like this.
  10. SKumar

    SKumar NES Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2017
    Messages:
    2,620
    Likes Received:
    2,546
    Location:
    Middlesex
    Springfield Saint looks like a pretty nice setup.
     
    slap shot likes this.
  11. boscru

    boscru NES Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2013
    Messages:
    2,270
    Likes Received:
    466
    Location:
    brockton & fall river
    agreed. mine is a POS, works @100 yards, but life changes and my $500.00 AR will not be in the classifieds for $1200.00 when/if i get out of here
     
    Radtekk and enbloc like this.
  12. gokeeffe

    gokeeffe

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2012
    Messages:
    67
    Likes Received:
    57
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    I’d probably put the rifles you have away and buy something from Noveske. I’ve never known anybody to regret buying a Noveske.

    The Stag 3 Gun elite is a sweet rifle too.

    I considered buying both but they were both out of stock at the time. I’m probably going to get a Tavor first now just to get something different.

    I recently picked up a Ruger AR556 Moe. Don’t buy one of them. I had to have it replaced because the first one I got had the paint peeling off it. The replacement is fine but it’s only alright.

    I have a S&W M&P 15T and I really like it, if that floats your boat.

    A buddy of mine has a Sig 516. That’s an awesome rifle. I bought a Sig 716G2 DMR because I liked it so much. In retrospect I should have just gotten the 516.
     
  13. snax

    snax NES Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2009
    Messages:
    3,950
    Likes Received:
    2,719
    Location:
    LA - lowell area
    Hold on to the stuff you got.
    Congress goes back to work beginning of September, if the dems in the house start pushing a ban, it may get some steam. Even if one doesnt pass the mere fact they are debating it on the floor people in every state will panic... come late Sept, Oct, you may be shit out of luck finding anything.
     
    enbloc likes this.
  14. Reptile

    Reptile NES Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2006
    Messages:
    13,124
    Likes Received:
    3,341
    Get a Noveske.

    You won’t regret it.

    Research model on m4carbine.net.
     
  15. jct61765

    jct61765 NES Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Messages:
    1,638
    Likes Received:
    818
    Location:
    New Hampshire
    See what the gun stores have locally. Don’t be afraid to buy used.
     
  16. sigfanboy13

    sigfanboy13

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2017
    Messages:
    676
    Likes Received:
    524
    Location:
    Metro Atlanta
    Al-Jim19 likes this.
  17. Radtekk

    Radtekk NES Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2011
    Messages:
    7,934
    Likes Received:
    5,243
    Location:
    Chelmsford MA
    I like all the ideas so far. Been looking at Springfield and Colt. One thing that makes it easier for me is that the adjustable stock is less important for me. I do the same thing with car seats, slide it all the way back and hope... To address some comments... I like my Windham, it's set up the way I want it, dialed in, etc. I'd be (reasonably) happy to leave it behind, but by the time I got another one and set it up the way I want it I'd probably lose money even selling it at a "profit". Not out to rape anybody, especially here. Lady Radtekk's M&P Sport isn't available, it was my wedding gift to her. If, God forbid, the "Fit really hits the Shan" all I want to have is spares for friends, neighbors, family, etc. So I'd rather buy 2 good rifles than 1 superb one, I pretty much already have that, or close enough with the Windham. As to making people jelly at the range, my range will be in my backyard on 21 acres outside city limits. "People" will be critters, I don't think they can tell DD from Colt from Sig from Ruger...

    My plan regarding Congress and laws is to call Bud's and buy a couple, they'll hold them for 2 months no charge, all I need to do is get to TN, change my MA DL for a TN one, and walk in to pick them up. So I'll probably be buying this weekend:) Moving day is 9/20 and since the house is mine the mortgage company won't know or care if I melt a cc a little[devil2]

    As to my WASR, it's been listed for a month in WTS Rifles:
    WTS - Pre-Healy BS WASR/AK, mags, ammo, total package!
     
  18. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain NES Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2009
    Messages:
    5,787
    Likes Received:
    3,627
    If you just want a decent quality rifle that works and will last, get a pair of BCMs.
     
    daekken, Roadglide and mikelawtown like this.
  19. lowbuckbob

    lowbuckbob NES Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2008
    Messages:
    3,102
    Likes Received:
    1,647
    Location:
    Within my Curtilage
    Congrats on your move. Another one over the wall...
     
    sigfanboy13 likes this.
  20. JayCaliber

    JayCaliber NES Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2012
    Messages:
    395
    Likes Received:
    124
    Location:
    Boston
  21. Bistro

    Bistro NES Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2012
    Messages:
    569
    Likes Received:
    143
    Knights armament

    Lmt

    Noveske

    Bcm

    Colt especially m4a1
     
    Al-Jim19 and sigfanboy13 like this.
  22. FreeSiftyTheven

    FreeSiftyTheven

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2019
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    5
  23. PatMcD

    PatMcD NES Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2005
    Messages:
    6,579
    Likes Received:
    1,721
    Location:
    Maine
    Jesus, they're all the same. Pick one in the configuration you want and buy it. And don't get suckered into paying for a "premium" AR.
     
    Picton, KBCraig, Radtekk and 4 others like this.
  24. Uzi2

    Uzi2 NES Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2017
    Messages:
    3,992
    Likes Received:
    4,153
    Thank You Pat, you beat me to it.
     
    Radtekk likes this.
  25. SHOCKNAWE

    SHOCKNAWE NES Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2014
    Messages:
    1,595
    Likes Received:
    542
    Location:
    FU Mass, TY NH
    None of my AR’s are production Rifles, I get them built from A-Z. I use mostly BCM, FN, Aero parts and they run perfectly and are light weight. I’m definitely spending more than $650 which I assume you can get a decent AR for but definitely much less than the stupid prices for some of the other models that are overpriced.
     
  26. mac1911

    mac1911 NES Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2008
    Messages:
    25,769
    Likes Received:
    3,542
    if your just looking for a few SHTF rifles
    grab a carbine or 3 with in your price point.
    I have owned RRA, STAG, Windham, Bushmaster
    then a few builds off of Anderson , LMT ectect.
     
  27. SKumar

    SKumar NES Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2017
    Messages:
    2,620
    Likes Received:
    2,546
    Location:
    Middlesex
    [rofl]
    You're actually right. There's isn't too much difference between a $700 AR and $2000. The mechanism behind the AR15 on its own means any brand will shoot nicely.
     
    Radtekk likes this.
  28. dw617

    dw617 NES Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2013
    Messages:
    1,276
    Likes Received:
    380
    This should be a sticky note up top.
     
    KBCraig, Uzi2 and Radtekk like this.
  29. frenchman

    frenchman NES Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2012
    Messages:
    6,724
    Likes Received:
    3,753
    You really think that two ARs are fine for you and the wife? Damn, I could've saved me a lot of dough with that mindset. To me, it works with ARs like it works with women. As soon as I got one, I like all the other ones better.
     
    Winchester73 and Radtekk like this.
  30. June4th

    June4th NES Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2008
    Messages:
    3,859
    Likes Received:
    2,116
    Location:
    SE MA
    I bought a used Noveske from a member here and it was smoother, better finished and more accurate than the one I assembled with a complete BCM uppers and Rock River NM lower kit.
     
    Reptile likes this.

Share This Page