What's your favorite underappreciated or forgotten firearm?

milktree said:
"Unique rotating barrel"

er.. except the Beretta 8000, Beretta PX4, Boberg XR9/45, M1912 Steyr, Glock 46...
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True, and those other firearms are mentioned in the thread--but as far as I'm aware, the P 40/40 L are the only rotating-barrel firearms (past or present) that are chambered in a hot caliber like 10mm. Arguably, where the extra recoil reduction makes the most difference - and thus, I thought it worth mentioning. I was unaware of the Boberg offering, though - thanks for bringing it to my attention!
 
A.K. said:
People tend to miss one of the HUGE advantages of .357 Sig: ultimate reliability. Due to it's necked design failure to feed is practically nonexistent!
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That can be said about any bottleneck tho, not just .357 Sig. One of the half a dozen reasons I'm a proponent of .32 NAA beyond it being ballistically superior to .380 is it's a bottleneck that fits in the same mouseguns .380 does.
 
drgrant said:
Meh. This is woefully overrated.

This is a dumb "advantage" considering you could just buy another gun. If you can afford to engage in this kind of f***ery with conversion barrels then you can probably afford another gun.
The end result is much better you have two complete guns instead of one and a shitty conversion.

I'll never pretend to understand the fedora wearing hipster edgelord thing with caliber conversions. People think that they're getting some kind of a great win by doing this but all they're really doing is just trying to justify flinting out of buying another handgun. And you end up with a pile of crap that nobody wants at the end either whereas the guy who has the two handguns has two handguns and you still.only have one.

I won't do a caliber conversion unless there's literally no other route to get to the desired end result otherwise you're nearly always better off just buying another gun.
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The first pistol I bought was a Glock .40 because at the time I was figuring on how to have as many caliber options for the SHTF times as possible and at the time reloading was not in my future, so I figured the .40 to 9 dynamic was a decent idea and with an aftermarket 9mm barrel it meant I could shoot lead bullets.

While .40 is less popular than 9, the ammo can still be found on shelves at every LGS and sporting goods store in the country. Useful for when the next round of Saint Floyd "peace protests" start up the closer we get to election day.

Things changed when I got into reloading and 10mm became more accessible and I found out Glock 10's (and others I presume) can run .40 without trouble. How much they can do it, IDK, but if you HAD to do it, it can be done and really that's all I'm looking for with this stuff. That goes for the .40 to 9 as well.

I'm not going to say it's a novelty because it works fine, but knowing what I know now I wouldn't have bothered getting that .40 Glock and 9mm barrel because it's not a feature I'm utilizing. That said, anyone who is in a similar position at a young age just starting out and wanting to have a multi caliber pistol... I can't say it's a bad idea because none of us know what the future is gonna bring.

So, I agree with you to a point. If someone asked me what the best solution is for them to have a 9mm and a .40 pistol, I'd tell them get a 9mm that's the size they're looking for (Sig 365 or full size G17 or Beretta 92) and get a 10mm Glock and shoot the .40 from that with or without the .40 conversion barrel.

The reality is the .40 shoots so damn good from a 10mm sized pistol I'd rather people buy a 10 and convert it.
 
Reising model 50 SMG. The Reising was not liked by the Marines, but the reasons don't apply to civilian use. The Reising didn't handle dirt and debris very well, but I don't throw my machineguns on the ground. They were hand fitted so if you took a bunch apart, cleaned them and put them back together, they probably wouldn't work. I shot and cleaned one at a time. The Reising is much lighter and more accurate than the Thompson. The only downside is the very expensive magazines.
 
drgrant said:
Hon mention... straight pull rifles...


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The K31 is a great rifle. Though they are very reliable, they must be too complicated and expensive to produce today. The K31 is a frequent winner of CMP Camp Perry Nationals in the vintage class. I've won a pile of medals with mine. It belonged to a Swiss army officer and still has the troop tag under the butt plus some schutzenfest stickers from the same guy shooting in matches after he left the service. Bought it from Mosin Crate and he featured it in his newsletter a few years later when I sent him a note regarding how well it was shooting for matches.
 
StR said:
Please tell me that's yours--if so, congratulations - it's a beauty.

I've never seen a Whitney in person, but I love the space-aged design. It would look right at home in the 1955 Lincoln Futura concept car.
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Sweeney said:
Had my Krag at the range yesterday. It's no slouch.
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Stock or sporterized? I'm thinking sometime in the next year or two I'm going to get a sporterized one. I'm mainly interested in reloading for the cartridge, all I see written is the .30-40 is very simple to load for and I'd like to try some spitzer bullets in this chambering.
 
T-Unit said:
Stock or sporterized? I'm thinking sometime in the next year or two I'm going to get a sporterized one. I'm mainly interested in reloading for the cartridge, all I see written is the .30-40 is very simple to load for and I'd like to try some spitzer bullets in this chambering.
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Stock...as produced in 1902...except the sling.
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I hear you can make the brass from 303 Brit though it comes up a bit short.
 
Sweeney said:
Stock...as produced in 1902. Reproduction sling.
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I hear you can make the brass from 303 Brit though it comes up a bit short.
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Yeah, I prefer .30-40 brass, but that's tough to come by. I'll have to see what bullets work with it from formed .303 brass as I'm not looking to replicate any historical loadings, I'm willing to use whatever works.
 
StR said:
Which one are you thinking?
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For a while in the early 2010s I carried a poor man's PPK. A Thunder 380CC. The thing kicked hard though and I replaced it with a P30SK. I hear great things about their BP9 series.
 
G4Y4HK said:
For a while in the early 2010s I carried a poor man's PPK. A Thunder 380CC. The thing kicked hard though and I replaced it with a P30SK. I hear great things about their BP9 series.
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I’ve shot a few .380’s all were very soft. P238, ppk, g42.
 
G4Y4HK said:
It's mostly the blowback impulse. Quite a bit sharper than a traditional tilt barrel pistol.
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Going to agree to disagree

I’ve shot and owned the ones I mentioned above.

But I own a 3” 44mag and I’ve shot most every big bore, so I’m probably not the best to reply. Lol

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whacko said:
I own 2 A5 shotguns a miroku magnum and a Belgian light 12. Also own a new model a5. When I'm heading out for pheasant grouse rabbits or snowshoe hare i take the light 12 every time. I also think the old a5 is under appreciated by younger shooters. The a5 was THE shotgun to own if you were a real sportsmen in the 1940s to 1960s.......then the 1100 came about and knocked the a5 off the pedestal. I show new guys how the action works whenever I get a chance at the trap field and they are generally impressed by the long recoil action......browning was a genius.
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The A5 is legendary even in sporting clays circles.
 
G4Y4HK said:
It's mostly the blowback impulse. Quite a bit sharper than a traditional tilt barrel pistol.
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Some of the guns you just quoted aren't direct blowback. A G42 is waaaay softer shooting than a PPK and similar 380s. The PPK is annoyingly abusive for a 380.
 
Mountain said:
The K31 is a great rifle. Though they are very reliable, they must be too complicated and expensive to produce today. The K31 is a frequent winner of CMP Camp Perry Nationals in the vintage class. I've won a pile of medals with mine. It belonged to a Swiss army officer and still has the troop tag under the butt plus some schutzenfest stickers from the same guy shooting in matches after he left the service. Bought it from Mosin Crate and he featured it in his newsletter a few years later when I sent him a note regarding how well it was shooting for matches.
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I'm not a milsurpy guy but I have reverence for the Garand and the K31. I wish i had bought one when GP11 was in abundance. They always seem to be supremely well put together.
 
Savage 99, I prefer it in .30-30 or 300 savage.

Old hi power pistols.

K31 and K11 swiss rifles. Elegant, built like a tank, yet machined like a watch.

Any old Marlin .22, bolt or semi.
 
drgrant said:
I'm not a milsurpy guy but I have reverence for the Garand and the K31. I wish i had bought one when GP11 was in abundance. They always seem to be supremely well put together.
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100% via friends / contacts on NES I was able to build a nice stock of GP11. IMHO it is by far the most accurate milsurp ammo available.
 
JJC said:
P90. Make the scifi and stargate jokes, but aside from the offset, the gun just works. 50 rounds with a transparent magazine in easy line of sight, yes please.
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Add affordable easily reloadable ammo and some pre-ban mags and you have a winner.

The Barrett XM500 belongs on the list.
 
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