What's your favorite underappreciated or forgotten firearm?

.40 is losing popularity in LE and IDK how popular it ever was for non-LE, but when the used .40's are $100 less next to used 9's, the average person who is buying their first gun is looking to spend as little as possible knowing they are going to shoot it little. Those .40s will sell along with a few boxes of ammo and the buyer will be happy they walk away paying less than they did for a 9mm and ammo because they're not gun people and don't know any better.

You're 110% wrong about this. Nearly all 40 buyers these days are not new gun owners. I sold quite a few .40s.... Nearly ALL of them were bought by collectors, frequent fliers and 40 acolyte types. New shooters have ZERO interest in 40 at all unless they have a shitty retard friend standing behind them at the counter who's trying to push it on them.

Also basically if you go in any gun store of consequence there's only going to be one manufacturer's 40s on the shelf and that's going to be Glock. Others still make them but nobody bothers buying them. In some cases they might even be difficult to get from distribution for like Sig or S&W or somebody like that. Because nobody is buying new .40s unless it says Glock on the side of it. Ironically this results in a lot of retention of 40s unless a PD dumps them or somebody dies. Otherwise people don't bother trading them in although part of that is because there's that little nagging negative value problem. (Even Glock 40s suck on the flip, others are worse unless you're getting them on the cheap like in an estate situation).

This begs the question of what is it you are wanting from .357 Sig? You want it for a carry piece to run to the cigar store?

I don't want anything from it it's just something different. For the same reason a dog can lick its balls. I never was trying to advocate that it was actually a practical choice. For exactly the same reason that you advocate for stupid f***ing derringers, 32NAA and other guns that make no sense except I'd say a 357 Sig is a lot less dumb than that bullshit is. 🤣

A 9mm can do that just fine. You want it to go hiking in NH moose fukk and cum territory? 10mm or .45 is gonna be better for that.

There's almost no situation where .357 Sig becomes such a good choice it becomes worth paying triple what 9mm does and in the rare instances where .357 Sig actually is a superior choice to 9mm due to the extra power, that extra power pales in comparison to a larger caliber in a situation where carrying a larger gun is not an issue.

Blah blah blah. Still doesn't change the 357 Sig was a cool caliber that's about to go extinct. 🤣
 
Remington Model 11 autoloading shotgun. A licensed version of the Browning A5, and an all around great firearm.

I own three of them.

Also, the S&W 659. 9mm all metal double stack hammer fired SA/DA with decocker.

They just work, and I happen to own three of them as well.
 
You're 110% wrong about this. Nearly all 40 buyers these days are not new gun owners. I sold quite a few .40s.... Nearly ALL of them were bought by collectors, frequent fliers and 40 acolyte types. New shooters have ZERO interest in 40 at all unless they have a shitty retard friend standing behind them at the counter who's trying to push it on them.

Also basically if you go in any gun store of consequence there's only going to be one manufacturer's 40s on the shelf and that's going to be Glock. Others still make them but nobody bothers buying them. In some cases they might even be difficult to get from distribution for like Sig or S&W or somebody like that. Because nobody is buying new .40s unless it says Glock on the side of it. Ironically this results in a lot of retention of 40s unless a PD dumps them or somebody dies. Otherwise people don't bother trading them in although part of that is because there's that little nagging negative value problem. (Even Glock 40s suck on the flip, others are worse unless you're getting them on the cheap like in an estate situation).



I don't want anything from it it's just something different. For the same reason a dog can lick its balls. I never was trying to advocate that it was actually a practical choice. For exactly the same reason that you advocate for stupid f***ing derringers, 32NAA and other guns that make no sense except I'd say a 357 Sig is a lot less dumb than that bullshit is. 🤣



Blah blah blah. Still doesn't change the 357 Sig was a cool caliber that's about to go extinct. 🤣
At least I have an argument as to why the .357 Sig doesn't make sense. You have nothing as to why .32 NAA doesn't because you've never spent a more than a second thinking about it beyond "it's a .32, that means it sucks."
 
I first got a US made 92FS in the late 90s/early 00s, and even though it’s seldom used now, it still runs like a top when I do take it out. I just like the darn thing and my wife knows to bury me with it.

I’ll the Browning Hi-Power and A5. Not enough new shooters know about these. I still take my A5 with me to the skeet field when I go. Love that too.
I own 2 A5 shotguns a miroku magnum and a Belgian light 12. Also own a new model a5. When I'm heading out for pheasant grouse rabbits or snowshoe hare i take the light 12 every time. I also think the old a5 is under appreciated by younger shooters. The a5 was THE shotgun to own if you were a real sportsmen in the 1940s to 1960s.......then the 1100 came about and knocked the a5 off the pedestal. I show new guys how the action works whenever I get a chance at the trap field and they are generally impressed by the long recoil action......browning was a genius.
 
Runners up...

SW945... produced when S&W wasn't a joke at QC. Pick up an old SW945 and you might be impressed. It's basically a Twist on the 1911 it'll only failed commercially because of the 1911 existing. 🤣 that and Smith should have done a few things with the platform. I had one of the 4-in guns at one point and I sold it to a member here years ago hopefully he's still enjoying the thing.
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How is different from a 1911 in any interesting way?
 
There's almost no situation where .357 Sig becomes such a good choice it becomes worth paying triple what 9mm does and in the rare instances where .357 Sig actually is a superior choice to 9mm due to the extra power, that extra power pales in comparison to a larger caliber in a situation where carrying a larger gun is not an issue.

Here’s an example of a use for .357 Sig: I know a guy who handloads .357 Sig to 9mm pressure/power because (he finds) it feeds *incredibly* reliably. Never has a failure to feed.

He uses it for IDPA or IPSC or something where a FTF is expensive.

Yea, you can get that with lots of guns, it’s not unique. But he thinks it’s an advantage. Or maybe that’s just the excuse he uses because he thinks .357 Sig is cool.
 
Here’s an example of a use for .357 Sig: I know a guy who handloads .357 Sig to 9mm pressure/power because (he finds) it feeds *incredibly* reliably. Never has a failure to feed.

He uses it for IDPA or IPSC or something where a FTF is expensive.

Yea, you can get that with lots of guns, it’s not unique. But he thinks it’s an advantage. Or maybe that’s just the excuse he uses because he thinks .357 Sig is cool.

The best part about reloading your own ammo....why....because you can ;-)
 
They shoot like bolt action .223's. Very accurate.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8KMZpzNZQo


Not really, just because it’s manually operated. That doesn’t inherently make it more accurate.

They still have relatively thin aluminum receivers and handguards that interact with those receivers. His 3 round groups don’t mean much. Sure, there was a 3/4 MOA 3 round group, but also a 2+ MOA one. He says it is capable of 1/2 MOA. 😆. No, just no. His 5 round groups don’t show that, let alone something like a 10 round group or more.

Other testing shows it shoots like 1.4-2.5 MOA average 5-shot group sizes. Not bad, but not any different than most not-crap ARs.

But, Nutnfancy likes everything he touches.
 
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I do not own one, never fired one either. It’s on my list of guns to buy when I can afford to. I like the idea of a pump rifle and it seems to be popular with New England deer hunters.
I've seen people using them, hunting deer in VT. Quite a few in the cabin had them. This was in the early 80s.
 
Smith & Wesson Model 39, first 9mm semiauto in USA.

Good call on that one. That's the short barreled version of a couple of my favorite under appreciated and forgotten firearms. My Model 52 and 952, both of which I love shooting, sit very quietly in the back of my safe, since my newer acquisitions get all of my attention:

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How is different from a 1911 in any interesting way?
-The grip angle is slightly different from a 1911 maybe more of a straight drop although it's almost not really even that noticeable.

-The trigger out of the box is outstanding, or at least it was on the ones ive used.

-it has a ramped barrel (like a typical handgun) and is linkless. Also has a briley spherical bushing at the end to help bring accuracy up. (It looks like a primitive wedding ring lol)

-It has a gigantic /external/ extractor.

-There's a spring loaded ejector pin that pops up. Not sure why they went with this but it's a pretty stout part.

-The mags were well designed, very 1911esque but slightly larger. I think Wilson or someone like that made them for smith.

-All 945s are flat tops. Originally it was sold in 3 sizes, an officer mod size, a 4in/commander and full size 5in guns. The 3in and 4in are rarer than the 5in, especially the 3in.
 
Calico M950 and HK G11
How on earth could I forget to mention the H&K G11 in my original post? The operating mechanism rivals that of a Swiss watch. I wish it caught on, it is truly a marvelous platform.

I have only seen the Calico in photos, not in person—have you had any experience with one? Loading the magazine looks like a nightmare.
 
I always wanted an OA-93 when I was a kid.

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They had one of these for sale in the classifieds here, I think? Earlier this year?

I forgot my other big nomination other than the Enfield No 5 Mk 1: the mighty AR180!



One of my favorite shooters. The only drawback is the mag availability.
 
Runners up...

SW945... produced when S&W wasn't a joke at QC. Pick up an old SW945 and you might be impressed. It's basically a Twist on the 1911 it'll only failed commercially because of the 1911 existing. 🤣 that and Smith should have done a few things with the platform. I had one of the 4-in guns at one point and I sold it to a member here years ago hopefully he's still enjoying the thing.
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This is a perfect answer to the question I posed—something overshadowed by a similar, more popular gun. I’ll have to do a little research to see what the differences were.
 
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