Something great will happen in my lifetime, I've know this since I was a child
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Something great will happen in my lifetime, I've know this since I was a child
WGAF about whether some .gov agency is data mining my opinions and attitudes on what I or many other like minded folks are and will do if they pass laws abridging our Constitutional rights. This isn't about guns, its about personal, legally owned property and the liberties of our country, even the anti's liberties, but their too stupid to see this. This is about an oath I took, a couple of times, its about my kids, my future grandkids and their future. **** the government for if need be, I will be the tip of the spear!There's one thing I am having a hard time grasping with all this talk of unrest and revolution. People are talking about how guerrilla tactics are needed to counter the government's technological superiority and talking about cordwood and going Timothy McVeigh. Seems that people are forgetting that technological superiority and data mining capability when posting such inflammatory statements.
ETA: Talk is cheap. Should a gun confiscation come to pass, I know what my reaction will be, and that I hope it does not get to that point. That's all I have to say about that.
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People like the one Progun is responding too and nutjobs like Uncle Ted do far more harm than good for gun rights. That kind of threatening, paranoid rhetoric is just ammo for the anti's.
WGAF about whether some .gov agency is data mining my opinions and attitudes on what I or many other like minded folks are and will do if they pass laws abridging our Constitutional rights. This isn't about guns, its about personal, legally owned property and the liberties of our country, even the anti's liberties, but their too stupid to see this. This is about an oath I took, a couple of times, its about my kids, my future grandkids and their future. **** the government for if need be, I will be the tip of the spear!
I don't disagree with what you're saying. I've always thought the lefts view on the 2nd Amendment was contrary to their other civil liberty views (which I often support, i.e., why the heck should I have any say on who someone marries??! None of my business). That said, I'm not going to die in a blaze of gunfire or go to prison and leave my wife and kids without a husband & father if/when some gov authority kicks my door in to take my guns (and no, I don't ever see that happening anyway, at least not in my lifetime. Maybe I'll be right, maybe I'll be wrong).
Can I bring a dog?
No, I think it is you that seem to have "tunnel vision" here. I think most here understand your point, but what is most shocking is that you don't seem to have a problem with the government coming to YOUR house, kicking the f**king door down, and wrestling you to the ground (once again, on YOUR own property) due to their proposed/imposed martial law! Who really gives a crap whether they were ordered to do a mass confiscation, or not - IT HAPPENED! You are missing the big picture here by trying to debate with one or 2 guys over details.
If there's gonna be a rebellion I need to buy some tactical pants.
Can't have a rebellion in regular pants.
Mac, you are a horrible, horrible american, and you should move back to the country your ancestors came from.Zomg...I really wish they would lock this thread and ones like it.
To the people on here whipping themselves up into some sort of frenzy preparing for the end: just stop. You are being ignorant and shortsighted. I swear, a lot of you pinheads a wishing for something catastrophic to happen because you are laboring under the delusion that not only are you prepared for it, but that you will come out in some sort of superior social position. Not only are these delusions those of some adolescent male who plays too many video games, but they are just flat-out wrong.
If anything bad ever truly happened, we'd all be f**ked. It does not matter how many guns or how much food you have--you'd still be f**ked. We'd all be f**ked. Because human beings are social creatures and we all need a functioning society to survive and thrive.
To the childish folks on here lusting for some sort of "rebellion" I would say you are ignorant and stupid. Ignorant and stupid because you do not realize what such a true upheaval would amount to: people would die. People you love. That's a fact. And there is nothing you could do about it. Nothing.
Why would anyone wish for that?
I wish you would all just STFU about it. I like to read about guns and firearms and outdoor activities, etc; but this teenage boy end-of-the-world crap is just so tedious.
No one is coming to take your guns, so relax. And if they ever do, there won't be much you can do about it anyway, so relax.
You all think you're John friggin' Wayne at The Alamo when the reality is we're all type-typing away at keyboards, so let's knock off the fraudulent hardcore b.s. and have some fun.
Zomg...I really wish they would lock this thread and ones like it.
To the people on here whipping themselves up into some sort of frenzy preparing for the end: just stop. You are being ignorant and shortsighted. I swear, a lot of you pinheads a wishing for something catastrophic to happen because you are laboring under the delusion that not only are you prepared for it, but that you will come out in some sort of superior social position. Not only are these delusions those of some adolescent male who plays too many video games, but they are just flat-out wrong.
If anything bad ever truly happened, we'd all be f**ked. It does not matter how many guns or how much food you have--you'd still be f**ked. We'd all be f**ked. Because human beings are social creatures and we all need a functioning society to survive and thrive.
To the childish folks on here lusting for some sort of "rebellion" I would say you are ignorant and stupid. Ignorant and stupid because you do not realize what such a true upheaval would amount to: people would die. People you love. That's a fact. And there is nothing you could do about it. Nothing.
Why would anyone wish for that?
I wish you would all just STFU about it. I like to read about guns and firearms and outdoor activities, etc; but this teenage boy end-of-the-world crap is just so tedious.
No one is coming to take your guns, so relax.
Zomg...I really wish they would lock this thread and ones like it.
To the people on here whipping themselves up into some sort of frenzy preparing for the end: just stop. You are being ignorant and shortsighted. I swear, a lot of you pinheads a wishing for something catastrophic to happen because you are laboring under the delusion that not only are you prepared for it, but that you will come out in some sort of superior social position. Not only are these delusions those of some adolescent male who plays too many video games, but they are just flat-out wrong.
If anything bad ever truly happened, we'd all be f**ked. It does not matter how many guns or how much food you have--you'd still be f**ked. We'd all be f**ked. Because human beings are social creatures and we all need a functioning society to survive and thrive.
To the childish folks on here lusting for some sort of "rebellion" I would say you are ignorant and stupid. Ignorant and stupid because you do not realize what such a true upheaval would amount to: people would die. People you love. That's a fact. And there is nothing you could do about it. Nothing.
Why would anyone wish for that?
I wish you would all just STFU about it. I like to read about guns and firearms and outdoor activities, etc; but this teenage boy end-of-the-world crap is just so tedious.
No one is coming to take your guns, so relax. And if they ever do, there won't be much you can do about it anyway, so relax.
You all think you're John friggin' Wayne at The Alamo when the reality is we're all type-typing away at keyboards, so let's knock off the fraudulent hardcore b.s. and have some fun.
I think that any "rebellion" is going to start and end with some group of states reasserting the 10th and daring the Feds to do something about it. TX or UT come to mind. With its oil and armed citizenry, TX could go it alone. Yes, they are currently a "net receiver" of federal largess, but I would bet that nationalizing ("state-izing?") the oil fields would more than cover that.
Yeah but I don't want to go to a seceding state that will nationalize anything.
I think that any "rebellion" is going to start and end with some group of states reasserting the 10th and daring the Feds to do something about it. TX or UT come to mind. With its oil and armed citizenry, TX could go it alone. Yes, they are currently a "net receiver" of federal largess, but I would bet that nationalizing ("state-izing?") the oil fields would more than cover that.
Good point. Profit sharing? Just tying to find a way out of this conundrum that doesn't involve me getting shot at. BTDT, didn't like it.
Take a look at what the 'net receiver' means - there are a whole lot of military bases in Tx. Also a fair number of retirees soaking up the heat.
I would love to see the numbers with the military and social security monies removed.
I would expect that the military bases would be nationalized. Dunno about the retirees. I would expect that any new country wouldn't really want to take on the burden of SS, so they would be invited to leave or to stay and put an aged shoulder to the till. Sme goes for SSI and EBT folks.