What we deal with is crazy

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I did a license appeal today. A sad case in which the license holder's son figured out how to access his safe and committed suicide with a pistol. The police suspended the license bc the licensee did not remember owning the gun which traced back to him, and bc they assumed he must have improperly stored it. All his other guns were secured in two safes.

The police lawyer said the judge should assume the gun was improperly stored and that it must be negligent of an unlicensed person gained access. The client testified that the son must have found the slip of paper with the combination hidden in his jewelry box or found it on his phone.

The judge had no trouble returning the license.
 
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I did a license appeal today. A sad case in which the license holder's son figured out how to access his safe and committed suicide with a pistol. The police suspended the license bc the licensee did not remember owning the gun which traced back to him, and bc they assumed he must have improperly stored it. All his other guns were secured in two safes.

The police lawyer said the judge should assume the gun was improperly stored and that it must be negligent of an unlicensed person gained access. The client testified that the son must have found the slip of paper with the combination hidden in his jewelry box or found it on his phone.

The judge had no trouble returning the license.
MA has a well earned reputation for being anti-gun.
 
Good stuff Neil, absolutely infuriating folks need to deal with this BS here, but I'm glad the judge had more sense than the police lawyer. That's more ludicrous than my crap I dealt with. "We should assume the worst" for no other reason than to further punish someone going thru what is the likely darkest time of his life.
 
I did a license appeal today. A sad case in which the license holder's son figured out how to access his safe and committed suicide with a pistol. The police suspended the license bc the licensee did not remember owning the gun which traced back to him, and bc they assumed he must have improperly stored it. All his other guns were secured in two safes.

The police lawyer said the judge should assume the gun was improperly stored and that it must be negligent of an unlicensed person gained access. The client testified that the son must have found the slip of paper with the combination hidden in his jewelry box or found it on his phone.

The judge had no trouble returning the license.

Is that how the justice system goes these days? Assume guilt?
 
Is that how the justice system goes these days? Assume guilt?
Yup. Something tragic happened...has to be the owners fault....no possible other explanation....it obvious. In fact he shouldn't even own a gun...why does he even "need" a gun. See what happens when people own guns.
JFC

I'm glad someone was there to stand up for this poor guy who has to live without his son. Chokes me up to even think about it. And mad it has to go that far to restore his 2A rights
 
My sincerest condolences to your client for the loss of his son.

Watching the VP debate I was struck by the fact that Walz focused on "guns" when he cited rural suicide by firearms was the leading cause of firearms death in Minnesota.

I was a bit surprised that Vance did not ask... forget about how they committed suicide... WHY do all of these people want to kill themselves?
Walz repeatedly pointed out that Minnesota has great heath care, a good standard of living, and low unemployment. Yet all of these people commit suicide.
Must be the guns fault.
Like a healthy person would be tempted to kill themselves just because they had access to a firearm.
 
I did a license appeal today. A sad case in which the license holder's son figured out how to access his safe and committed suicide with a pistol. The police suspended the license bc the licensee did not remember owning the gun which traced back to him, and bc they assumed he must have improperly stored it. All his other guns were secured in two safes.

The police lawyer said the judge should assume the gun was improperly stored and that it must be negligent of an unlicensed person gained access. The client testified that the son must have found the slip of paper with the combination hidden in his jewelry box or found it on his phone.

The judge had no trouble returning the license.
Well done. Sad about the son and that his father (and family) have to suffer the loss.

Neil, I hope I never need your services. It’s good to know you’re out there just in case.
 
Well done. Sad about the son and that his father (and family) have to suffer the loss.

Neil, I hope I never need your services. It’s good to know you’re out there just in case.
I hope you don't too. But I have been involved with cases in which LTC holder family members committed suicide with their guns. It is very sad and never without consequences. I'm not opposed to keeping guns unsecured in principal if they are within your control but if there's a depressed family member around you really need to amp up the security. Desperate people can really go to extremes.
 
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