What happens if you try to do more than 4 FTF transfers a year?

[Garys]

Specifically, does the FA-10 webform flag recognize that a licensee is trying to do a fifth transfer and not allow it to proceed? Or does it allow the transfer to proceed, but alert the FRB?

Or, does it do nothing?

 

[one-eyed Jack]

Call and ask. If no answer in half an hour, hang up. Jack.

 

[drgrant]

Specifically, does the FA-10 webform flag recognize that a licensee is trying to do a fifth transfer and not allow it to proceed? Or does it allow the transfer to proceed, but alert the FRB?

The system doesn't seem to give a shit but I think it will "flag" the seller for some kind of internal review. I ran into one guy a few years ago who stated that he actually got a warning letter from CJIS/FRB after accidentally doing 6 transfers in one year. It would be fun to actually get a COPY of one of these warning letters though, because I've never seen one
personally.

-Mike

 

[Garys]

I'll pass on that experience, thanks. And the one Jack suggested as well.

The system doesn't seem to give a shit but I think it will "flag" the seller for some kind of internal review. I ran into one guy a few years ago who stated that he actually got a warning letter from CJIS/FRB after accidentally doing 6 transfers in one year. It would be fun to actually get a COPY of one of these warning letters though, because I've never seen one
personally.

-Mike

 

[pupchow]

What's the consequence of exceeding that imposed limit?

 

[drgrant]

What's the consequence of exceeding that imposed limit?

Probably laid out in MGL somewhere but I can't recall anyone actually getting convicted for it, other than getting the nasty letter in the mail. It may or may not be a felony I forget. Might have graduated penalty too for first offense etc. This is one of those things like the S128A/B crap that theres not a lot of case law on.

-Mike

 

[Waher]

I think part of it falls into the state regs for engaging in business. Much like only being able to sell 4 cars in a year privately. Look in that section of MGL.

 

[pupchow]

I think part of it falls into the state regs for engaging in business. Much like only being able to sell 4 cars in a year privately. Look in that section of MGL.

Yes, it seems that would be the potential.

https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section128A

 

[Knob Creek]

Probably has to do with losing Sales Tax revenue on sales. Back when we used paper we had a gentleman on here who sold a lotter guns. (Some may remember him). He once told me he did 9 transfers in a year.

 

[Len-2A Training]

Probably has to do with losing Sales Tax revenue on sales. Back when we used paper we had a gentleman on here who sold a lotter guns. (Some may remember him). He once told me he did 9 transfers in a year.

He was also told to get an FFL! Which he did.

 

[Cuz]

I guess it depends on if you do 5 transfers or 15. Exceed it by one or two and they may just politely remind you about the limit and that will be it.


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[Reptile]

Look at it from the Anti perspective...

Do an audit of all FA10's every 6 months.

if somebody does 5 or 6 do nothing.

If more than 6, send a letter as a warning.

If it continues explain that there will be consequences.

 

[GLOCK-22]

OH shit didn't know I do 12 a year

 

[jayhitek]

OH shit didn't know I do 12 a year

Well it used to be 10.. so you weren't crazy. But now it's 4 sooo yahh.. you should probably hold off for a while. They're going to think you're acting as a dealer without an FFL.

 

[GLOCK-22]

How funny 12 a year and your a dealer F them.

I would like to find one dealer that can survive on 1 gun sale a month.

I would like to see any dealer that does only 1 gun sale a month and not have there FFL pulled by the state or the Fed's because you know for a fact if you only sell 1 gun a month they would say your not engaged in the business and they would not renew your FFL.

So your damned if you do and damned if you don't.