What exactly do I have here....?

[qman]

Can someone please tell me what exactly do I have here?

Appears to be all original, with cleaning rod. Also appears there is a bayonet lug (hard to see in pics). Wood is in decent shape considering its age, with minor dings. There are numerous markings that I tried to get pictures of. This beast measures in as 57.5 inches, barrel is 42.5 inches, and is pretty heavy. All mechanical parts appear to be fully functioning.

Any information on this rifle would be great!

Thanks!

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[ccm75]

I have no idea but where did you find that cannon?

 

[saltydude]

Can you tell if it's been converted from flintlock to percussion?
Measuring the bore would help.

 

[qman]

I have no idea.... The bore is 3/4", this rifle has been sitting in a closet since mid 1950's if not longer.

Can you tell if it's been converted from flintlock to percussion?
Measuring the bore would help.

 

[codenamepaul]

Looks like it could be a Springfield 3 band, but should have some markings. Better pix would be, well...better

 

[je25ff]

Is that a cartouche of some kind on the stock or just scratches/random damage.

 

[qman]

Looks like it could be a Springfield 3 band, but should have some markings. Better pix would be, well...better

I'll take a better look and try to get some additional pics later tonight. Where would the markings be?

 

[codenamepaul]

On the lock just aft of the hammer. There should also be a date stamped on the barrel right where the wood starts. Your measure is a little long for a 3 band and the bore size is a bit big. If it is a conversion, it may be a converted 1840 (which were .69 cal-a little closer to the 3/4 you mentioned) The 3 band is a .58 cal

There would also be inspectors cartouches on the stock cheek rest and on the bottom of the 'grip'

 

[blackdog of vt]

I believe its a Lorenz musket Austrian 1854ish. Imported by both sides during the civil war. The bolster is the give away.

 

[qman]

I was able to see numerous markings upon further examination. I updated the original post with some additional pictures. Also, barrel measures 42.5 inches.

On the lock just aft of the hammer. There should also be a date stamped on the barrel right where the wood starts. Your measure is a little long for a 3 band and the bore size is a bit big. If it is a conversion, it may be a converted 1840 (which were .69 cal-a little closer to the 3/4 you mentioned) The 3 band is a .58 cal

There would also be inspectors cartouches on the stock cheek rest and on the bottom of the 'grip'

 

[codenamepaul]

Lorenz was also .58 cal tho'

 

[blackdog of vt]

They made them in .54 .58 and .75. How exact are we on the caliber? They also had 1842's converted by Leman in .69cal. Its an Austrian lock and should have a three number date omitting the "1".

 

[qman]

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[W.E.C]

 

[blackdog of vt]

That's what I thought, the Austrian guns were very distinctive. It's a nice looking piece, hope you enjoy it.

 

[Rotaryrocket]

That things cool!!

 

[Rockrivr1]

How much is something like that worth?

 

[qman]

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[The5thDentist]

Awesome closet find!

 

[beaker]

When are you going to shoot it?

Sent from my Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk Pro - typos are from the GD auto correct unless they are funny substitutions those I'll take credit for.

 

[codenamepaul]

Nice call blackdog-even on the too dark pix, you picked that out.

 

[blackdog of vt]

Good question....., anyone...?

Hard average use 600-800, mint 1,200-1,500.
We shoot these and guns much older all the time, most likely it can be shot again with a little tlc.

 

[blackdog of vt]

Nice call blackdog-even on the too dark pix, you picked that out.

Its what I do, so not that hard. Percussion era is a new fad to me, I'm a pre 1780 flintlock man.

 

[qman]

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