What do these guns have in common?

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1 - a Philadelphia Deringer
2 - a "British Bulldog" revolver
3 - an Iver Johnson .32 revolver
4 - a Mannlicher Carcano bolt action rifle.

First correct answer gets bragging rights... and a Nestle's Crunch bar if the trick or treaters leave any. (you have to come pick it up.)
 
All are pices of crap as well.

Remington bolt action rifles are the likely weapons used to terminate Jack.
 
That was the election of 1912 with Teddy Rosevelt.

Andrew Johnson, before he became president was hearing rumers that someone was going to kill him, so at the start of one of his speaches, he pulled out his revolver and asked the would be assasin to come forward so that they could get the issue settled. Seeing no activity, he placed the revolver on the lecturn and went on with his speech.

And nobody in the audience freaked out at the sight of the gun - go figure.

His words were:

"I have been informed that part of the business to be transacted on the present occasion is the assassination of the individual who now has the honor of addressing you . . . Therefore, if any man has come here tonight for the purpose indicated, I do not say to him let him speak, but let him shoot."

You know, I would very much prefer it if my leaders actually had balls. (^_^)
 
TR didn't go after the would-be assassin, but did brush off his Secret Service people and deliver his prepared 90 minute campaign speech before going to the hospital to have the bullet removed from his chest. In contrast, had John Kerry ever been knocked to the ground by his protectors based on a false report of an assasination attempt, he would have applied for another Purple Heart.

Ken
 
The Mannlicher-Carcano was fairly obvious clue; the Deringer was what sealed it.

Been watching "Tales of the Gun" again, haven't you? [wink]
 
Scrivener said:
The Mannlicher-Carcano was fairly obvious clue; the Deringer was what sealed it.

Been watching "Tales of the Gun" again, haven't you? [wink]

Yup. Tivo'd the "Guns of Infamy" episode and watched it last night while waiting for trick or treaters.

I tried to search on the web for more information on the "bulldog" that got Garfield, and couldn't find ANY information on the gun used in the assassination! It seems that it just isn't mentioned at all. Either that, or I don't know the right phrases to search for. :D
 
dwarven1 said:
Scrivener said:
The Mannlicher-Carcano was fairly obvious clue; the Deringer was what sealed it.

Been watching "Tales of the Gun" again, haven't you? [wink]

Yup. Tivo'd the "Guns of Infamy" episode and watched it last night while waiting for trick or treaters.

I tried to search on the web for more information on the "bulldog" that got Garfield, and couldn't find ANY information on the gun used in the assassination! It seems that it just isn't mentioned at all. Either that, or I don't know the right phrases to search for. :D

Bro Ross,

I thought Charles G claimed that he didnt kill Garfield. Wasnt it the dctors who killed the late president?
 
dwarven1 said:
Scrivener said:
The Mannlicher-Carcano was fairly obvious clue; the Deringer was what sealed it.

Been watching "Tales of the Gun" again, haven't you? [wink]

Yup. Tivo'd the "Guns of Infamy" episode and watched it last night while waiting for trick or treaters.

I tried to search on the web for more information on the "bulldog" that got Garfield, and couldn't find ANY information on the gun used in the assassination! It seems that it just isn't mentioned at all. Either that, or I don't know the right phrases to search for. :D

Not much success either except that it was a British Bulldog .44! [wink] five-chambered revolver with a fancy grip.
 
hiram_Abiff said:
Not much success either except that it was a British Bulldog .44! [wink] five-chambered revolver with a fancy grip.

You had more luck than I did... although the gun shown on Tales of the Gun showed a gun with a plain wood grip. What they said is that he wanted to get one with an ivory grip... but he didn't have the extra dollar it cost.

And as for who killed him... from what I'm reading, it looks more like sepsis killed him. He hung on for several months.
 
Very interesting!

The simple answer is, no. We do know that it was a British Bull Dog, .44 cal., five-chambered revolver with a fancy grip. It was loaned to the Smithsonian Museum and photographed there in the early 20th Century, but was never part of their permanent collection. A similar revolver was donated to the Western Reserve Historical Society a few years ago and may be used in a future exhibit at Lawnfield.

According to Tales of the Gun, the Bulldog was stolen from the Smithsonian, and did not have the fancy grip that Giteau wanted, but the cheaper, plain grip.

Wonder who's right?

One thing that TOTG didn't mention was the caliber. They mentioned the caliber of all the other Presidential assassination guns, but not the Bulldog. although I'm not surprised it was .44.. they did show the cylinder and mentioned that it was "large caliber".

Ross
 
I dont think Charles was a pauper not to afford a good pistol. The guy wanted to make an statement, though he was not a good shot. He have planned everthing... even his scape from the scene.
 
.... an English Bull Dog .44


Webley's Bull Dog Revolver
First Patterns, ca 1872-1873
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