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Not at all. If you kill yourself chemically (gas, pill or liquid) or by exsanguination (either outdoors or via IV into a bottle) you don't leave much of a mess and have a painless death. Do it with a gun and you have a huge mess (a friend had his car totaled after choosing this method) , destroy a nice gun (really think your relatives will get it back or even want it? Know what uncleaned blood does to a royal blue finish on a vintage Python); and give a statistic that can be used against something you believe in.The end result is the same.
I read that article this morning. Its a slippery slope from voluntary waiving a right to mandatory voluntary waiving of a right. One assertion that was made in the article I really don't believe is that other forms of suicide (hanging, overdose, jumping) didn't go up appreciably. I knew three suicides, only one was a gun.
I'm not disagreeing with what your saying my point was that in the end the result is the same. Death. I've had two friends over the years commit suicide. The end result was the same. I was at a complete loss both times. I don't think it would have changed my feelings about it if they had shot themselves. Just my thoughts.Not at all. If you kill yourself chemically (gas, pill or liquid) or by exsanguination (either outdoors or via IV into a bottle) you don't leave much of a mess and have a painless death. Do it with a gun and you have a huge mess (a friend had his car totaled after choosing this method) , destroy a nice gun (really think your relatives will get it back or even want it? Know what uncleaned blood does to a royal blue finish on a vintage Python); and give a statistic that can be used against something you believe in.
They say that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. When that is the case, it's a bad idea. But, there can be cases where it is a rational decision for someone who does not have an imaginary friend telling them it is wrong. Think advanced pancreatic cancer; ALS; gioblastoma; etc. Those problems are not "temporary" and not going to "go away", and how far to fight the battle is a decision only the individual can decide. Or in the case of MA, the catholic church (via lobbying) and the legislature has attempted to make that decision for the individual, assuring amateur rather than professional execution (pun intended) of the task.
The libertarian was ignoring scope creep, and advocating only "voluntarily" going on the list. But, we all know how that works - define it as "good and commendable" and "voluntary" and eventually the govt will force you to do the good and commendable thing.so a Libertarion wants it easier for the authorities to take away weapons? Suicide is a mental health issue, not a govt. issue.
Lots of "gun stuff" flies under the radar that is much more visible down south, which is why the southern states are plagued with nonsense such as emergency restrictions on being armed in public; restaurant/bar bans; a shopping list of where carry permits are banned and binding signage.In my opinion maybe down South suicide by gun is more of an Issue then Massachusetts. I bet self injury via cutting or jumping or drug overdose is the biggest issue nationwide for suicide.
I'm too lazy to find the cite right now, but while Canada's handgun registry helped with suicide by firearm, it did next to nothing for overall numbers; there was almost 1:1 replacement with hanging...success?I read it on Sat on the Ah-pad. It was an OK article. It won't go anywhere. The Left wants you to believe that GUNZRBADUMKAY! If they only moved a few inches off of that platform, they'd run the rest of the country. Easily. But they can't. It's inbred in them.
But the point is that if we had some sort of voluntary gun sequestration, it might help suicides. And there is data for this. Suicides in GB went down after Town Gas was eliminated for electricity and natural gas. BUT it was such a long period as to not be able to determine HOW MUCH was b/c of the lack of an easy suicide-machine and how much was increased prosperity. Other studies have found similar results.
It wouldn't save millions of lives. Maybe thousands. But the slippery slope is today YOU can petition to have your rights suspended. Tomorrow, maybe I can petition to have your rights suspended.
The underlying truth is that because so many deaths are suicides, guns are NOT the problem in violence overall or suicides. Which the author kind of missed.