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That’s awesome. Wait till you try it in more cartridges. Reduced rifle loads and such.
It really is an awesome powder.
That's funny. I was getting frustrated with how with Unique runs through the Dillon powder measure (not awful, but not like smaller grained stuff) and not awesome standard deviations, and was stoked when I was finally down to the bottom half of my last pound of it. I'll probably come full circle back to it at some point when I get tired of having 12 different powders.
 

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Virtually any pistol power will run reduced rifle loads, generally for cast bullets, but for the time being stick with published data. You may find more load data in the Lyman handbooks versus other bullet manufacturer's guides. I believe Lyman still publishes a Cast Bullet Handbook.
There's always "The Load"... "The Load" Is 13 grains of Red Dot
 

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That's funny. I was getting frustrated with how with Unique runs through the Dillon powder measure (not awful, but not like smaller grained stuff) and not awesome standard deviations, and was stoked when I was finally down to the bottom half of my last pound of it. I'll probably come full circle back to it at some point when I get tired of having 12 different powders.
I will admit it doesn't meter well. I'm getting 9.4 to 9.9 through my Lee powder measure. I do have to weight each charge and adjust quite a bit. But I've determined that for me the economical charges and the great accuracy I'm getting are worth the extra time.
 

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I will admit it doesn't meter well. I'm getting 9.4 to 9.9 through my Lee powder measure. I do have to weight each charge and adjust quite a bit. But I've determined that for me the economical charges and the great accuracy I'm getting are worth the extra time.
Oh no, I get it. I've hand weighed Green Dot for 38 loads just to see what happens, which may as well be potato chips compared to something like Power Pistol.
 

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Oh no, I get it. I've hand weighed Green Dot for 38 loads just to see what happens, which may as well be potato chips compared to something like Power Pistol.
Best metering powder I use is bullseye. Set it at 4.6 for 45acp loads and I weight every 10th just cuz. I consistently get 4.5 to 4.6 on every throw with bullseye.

Worst I've used is 700x. Holy crap that shit has big flakes.
 

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That's funny. I was getting frustrated with how with Unique runs through the Dillon powder measure (not awful, but not like smaller grained stuff) and not awesome standard deviations, and was stoked when I was finally down to the bottom half of my last pound of it. I'll probably come full circle back to it at some point when I get tired of having 12 different powders.
I don’t use it in my Dillon too much. It’s usually running through one of my old Lyman 55s.
I have run into that issue with Universal Clays though. I found if I tapped my knuckles on the side of the powder measure a couple dozen times after I filled it that it would settle in and give me 1/10th of a grain results.
If I didn’t do that it was all over the board and kept creeping up till it finally settled.

It might be worth trying that with the Unique.
 

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I wonder how the Lee perfect powder measure works with Unique? I use it for coarse stick powders like 4064 and for fluffy powder like Trail Boss. Works fairly well.
Thats what I'm using with unique. The Lee perfect powder measure. My goal is 9.6 grains best I can get is 9.4 to 9.9. So a .5 swing. Not good enough for bullseye loads.....definitely not good enough when loading near the top of published data. I check each charge woth unique and that measure.

Unique is flakey.
 

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Do those have a measurable impact on accuracy and consistency of powder drops?
 

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Is .45 Colt brass always so expensive?

I'm seeing once fired, mixed headstamp brass for $1.90 each and factory cowboy ammo for $1.69 each. Is the cowboy loaded brass less desirable or is this just a case of weird pandemic pricing?
Pandemic retard facebook prices.

I don't see much in stock, but it looks like new brass hovers around $30 for a bag of 100
 

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Thats what I'm using with unique. The Lee perfect powder measure. My goal is 9.6 grains best I can get is 9.4 to 9.9. So a .5 swing. Not good enough for bullseye loads.....definitely not good enough when loading near the top of published data. I check each charge woth unique and that measure.

Unique is flakey.
There’s your issue. Red reloading equipment.
Is .45 Colt brass always so expensive?

I'm seeing once fired, mixed headstamp brass for $1.90 each and factory cowboy ammo for $1.69 each. Is the cowboy loaded brass less desirable or is this just a case of weird pandemic pricing?
Usually it’s cheap. The few people that sell it once fire or range brass on forums and such usually charge more than you can find it new. It’s one of those weird pieces of brass that no one parts with.
 

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Guys, although they may not have every caliber under the sun, call Midstate Gun Company in Coventry, RI. They have an indoor range and they offer o-f brass for sale at reasonable prices. I just bought some 7.62x54R brass a few weeks ago for $20 per 100.
They only offer factory, boxer-primed brass, as they don't allow reloads on the range.
In fact, they came through for another NESer with some 6.5 CM for 25¢ or 30¢ a pop (I forget the price).
 

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There’s your issue. Red reloading equipment.

Usually it’s cheap. The few people that sell it once fire or range brass on forums and such usually charge more than you can find it new. It’s one of those weird pieces of brass that no one parts with.
Perfectly happy with it for what I paid. The measure cost me $19.99. I'm a low volume reloader. I make a about 100 to 200 rounds a week. It's not worth me spending bigger money on Dillon or RCRB. In short....I don't have an issue and never said I did.

The thing throws bullseye and 2400 dead on.
 

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Is .45 Colt brass always so expensive?

I'm seeing once fired, mixed headstamp brass for $1.90 each and factory cowboy ammo for $1.69 each. Is the cowboy loaded brass less desirable or is this just a case of weird pandemic pricing?
There's a buy-sell-trade thread on the discord server. I've managed to find 30 carbine and 30-30 brass there.
I think you're on discord right?
 

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Perfectly happy with it for what I paid. The measure cost me $19.99. I'm a low volume reloader. I make a about 100 to 200 rounds a week. It's not worth me spending bigger money on Dillon or RCRB. In short....I don't have an issue and never said I did.

The thing throws bullseye and 2400 dead on.
Have you tried to spray paint it blue to see if it helps the consistency?
I would consider you an avid reloader to the point it’s worth spending some extra for a tool that’s used all the time.
I know it’s hard to justify the Dillon or the RCBS but keep your eyes peeled for old Lyman 55s. They are very consistent and I don’t think I’ve paid of $25 for any of mine or the ones I’ve scored for friends and trade fodder.
 

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There's a buy-sell-trade thread on the discord server. I've managed to find 30 carbine and 30-30 brass there.
I think you're on discord right?
Good call. I'm on the server. I'll give it a shot. It's pretty bad when I'm reloading for two calibers I don't even have guns for.
 

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I've got a new love affair with unique for 357 mag. Only 9.6 grains under a 125 grain jsp produces a respectable velocity and very economical....and the groups I am getting are amazing. I had the highest slow fire score at bullseye league last week using that load and it was my first time ever shooting bullseye league. Yes.....an actual 357 mag load for bullseye shooting. The groups were just too good so I had to try them for league night.
Not surprised to hear it. I've never used Unique, but sometimes Universal is considered an alternative, and I've used that a bunch. I have a load of a 125 grain ZERO JHPC over 7.5 grains of Universal that shot about 1 MOA 5 shot groups out of my Henry, give or take. I loaded a bunch of those bullets over 7 grains in .38 special cases for use in my Rossi. That's well above safe .38+P pressure but modest for .357M. I don't have very many .38+P revolvers, but I got tired of having .38 revolver buster ammo lying around, despite my over-the-top labeling, so I've been working on shooting them up. I finished up the lot yesterday in my 4.2" Ruger GP100, which has a Leupold 4x scope on it. It was stupid accurate.
 

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Have you tried to spray paint it blue to see if it helps the consistency?
I would consider you an avid reloader to the point it’s worth spending some extra for a tool that’s used all the time.
I know it’s hard to justify the Dillon or the RCBS but keep your eyes peeled for old Lyman 55s. They are very consistent and I don’t think I’ve paid of $25 for any of mine or the ones I’ve scored for friends and trade fodder.
Serious question. I've seen rcbs powder measures for $90. They operate the same principle as the Lee perfect measure for $20. The rcbs is built "better" as it's metal and the lever is smoother. But how does it throw more consistent drops of flakey powder vs a Lee measure?
 

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Just saw the email that LP shipped my die set, primer pocket tool, and random pen (needed another couple dollars for free shipping). Even during the largest rush on gun supplies possibly ever, they still manage to ship same or next day. They'll keep getting my (wife's) hard-earned money.

Had a 5 gallon bucket of walnut shells in my garage which I was saving. I gathered them all and used to give them to my chickens to play with, but one choked on one so I stopped.

I cracked and pressure washed them. Going to back over them a few times with my truck in preparation for my brass tumbler 2.0. Anyone know a better way to crush these things? I'll report back with photos when it's complete.

Also, rejoined as a NES member after a few years hiatus. Uploaded the only logical avatar photo.
 

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Had a 5 gallon bucket of walnut shells in my garage which I was saving. I gathered them all and used to give them to my chickens to play with, but one choked on one so I stopped.

I cracked and pressure washed them. Going to back over them a few times with my truck in preparation for my brass tumbler 2.0. Anyone know a better way to crush these things? I'll report back with photos when it's complete.

If you know anyone up that way that brews their own beer and has one of these-

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Serious question. I've seen rcbs powder measures for $90. They operate the same principle as the Lee perfect measure for $20. The rcbs is built "better" as it's metal and the lever is smoother. But how does it throw more consistent drops of flakey powder vs a Lee measure?
Well because it’s built better and made of metal.
I’ve only used a Lee when setting up presses for buddies but from what I’ve seen it’s a sloppier fit and wears a bit with use. Some of plastic parts flex and leak powder. My cousin had tons of issues with his throwing inconsistent charges and leaking powder. Swapped to a Dillon press and no more issues.
My guess is they can machine the metal parts to much tighter tolerances and they are too stiff to flex and throw off the charge weights.
 

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Can't find any 30-30 ammo so ordered a Lee die set. Already cast for .308, Lee C309-170-F, and have about 1k in a bucket. Searched and searched online for brass and finally found a seller of mixed range pick-up brass. $20 for 50, free shipping. Now to decide on Unique or H335 as I have both.
If you need some 30-30 brass I have some. I don't have a 30-30 if your up one the north shore some time think I have like 150 rounds. But I'm down for awhile just had some work done on my spine typing from the hospital let me know if your up here some time.
 

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If you need some 30-30 brass I have some. I don't have a 30-30 if your up one the north shore some time think I have like 150 rounds. But I'm down for awhile just had some work done on my spine typing from the hospital let me know if your up here some time.
Appreciate the offer, thanks. Hope your recover is quick.
 
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