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My wife bought me a Dillon XL650 as my first press a couple of years ago as a Christmas present.
She spent a bit of time researching, and got help from a buddy of mine down the street that reloads.
Bought it setup for 9mm, with a casefeeder.

My buddy and my son helped me set it up and showed me how to use it.
My first couple of hundred rounds were a mixed batch, some good, some bad, some "meh".
After that I had a pretty good idea of what I was doing.

I load lots of 9mm, and smaller quantities of .357Sig, .38Spcl, and .357Mag - I'm about to add .45ACP to that list.
Even with the swappable toolheads, I found it was a pain to swap to one of the other setups only to go right back to 9mm.

I had the room, I had the money - I bought another pretty much identical 650 a while ago.
The original is setup on the left and always used for 9mm, the other is used for the other loads.

Last week I ordered a large primer unit from Dillon, as soon as the backordered dies come in I can start loading .45ACP.

I read lots of people saying on different forums that you should learn to load with a single station press.
Maybe that's true for precision rifle rounds - I didn't find that to be true for what I'm doing - cranking out decent pistol rounds.
I really like the XL650.
I started on a friend's 550 and he had a 650 on another bench. He said now that you have the hang of it try the 650. I bought one a few days later. Loaded on it for 5 years, traded it for a few really nice guns and drank the cool aid early when Mk7 released their Evolution. The Evo is like a 1050 on steroids....but I have a soft spot for the 650....great loader
 

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I just renewed my permit with the local FD and I checked out the NFPA 2015 code they go by in Mass. According to the code, you can have up to 10,000 primers without a permit or anything.

If you want over 10,000 primers, YOU NEED A STORAGE LICENSE not a permit. There is no permit that covers primers at all. And from what I could gather, licenses require specific methods of storage and inspections by the FD. So you need to think twice before packing your house to the gills with primers and no license to store them. If there is some kind of incident at your house, you could have legal trouble/fines. And if you have a claim, your insurance company will tell you to pound sand too. They'll use any reason to deny a claim.
I asked the Fire Chief and at the PD station when we moved into Harvard and both looked at me like I had 2 heads and both said...never heard of that....don't worry about it.....so I didn't.
 

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Scored a pound of imr4227 up at shooters today as well as a box of 265 grain Hornady interlock jsp for 44mag.

Will be running my first batch of 44 mag for testing tonight. With the 265 grain jsp I'll run 5 of each starting at 18.5 grains of imr4427 and going up by .5 grain increments up to near max.

Wish me luck.
 

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I built a small connection shelf between my cabinets and the loader table. Its now a new home for my Rollsizer and RF100. Also 3D printed and adapter so I can run and extra feed spring from my case feeder to the Rollsizer. The rolled cases fall right into an ammo box.
 

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The rollsizer is for Glock brass I assume? Never actually seen one.
Yes, Glock bulge. I shoot an Open gun that's a real picky eater so Rollsizing just makes the whole process easier. Now I just roll size everything. My rule is to come home from the rang with more empty brass than I shot...call me cheap but I'm never buy brass. I picked up the Rollsizer on the Brian Enos site a few years ago from someone getting out of reloading...so it was 1/2 the price of a new one. Again, I'm too cheap to buy new!!
 
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I started on a friend's 550 and he had a 650 on another bench. He said now that you have the hang of it try the 650. I bought one a few days later. Loaded on it for 5 years, traded it for a few really nice guns and drank the cool aid early when Mk7 released their Evolution. The Evo is like a 1050 on steroids....but I have a soft spot for the 650....great loader

My buddy down the street has a 1050 set up for 9mm, and a 650 set up for .223/5.56. The 1050's impressive. I've seen the literature for a Mk7, haven't actually seen one. The 650's good for me, I think my buddy's machine is overkill for him - he has money and likes toys. (who me? Jealous?)
 

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Received my backordered new 44 magnum brass, 1000 pieces. Ordered them in December when they were allowing backorders of this caliber. Now you can't. I guess I'll deburr the flash holes...maybe. I usually don't bother, but sometimes I do in 44 Magnum and 45 Colt. Thing is, I hardly need to load anything after all the reloading I did last year. Deburring the flash holes would at least be something to do.
 

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Scored a pound of imr4227 up at shooters today as well as a box of 265 grain Hornady interlock jsp for 44mag.

Will be running my first batch of 44 mag for testing tonight. With the 265 grain jsp I'll run 5 of each starting at 18.5 grains of imr4427 and going up by .5 grain increments up to near max.

Wish me luck.

If you get to it, try some 4227 for your .357 levergun loads.
Its like that barrel is made for that burn rate.
 

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Received my backordered new 44 magnum brass, 1000 pieces. Ordered them in December when they were allowing backorders of this caliber. Now you can't. I guess I'll deburr the flash holes...maybe. I usually don't bother, but sometimes I do in 44 Magnum and 45 Colt. Thing is, I hardly need to load anything after all the reloading I did last year. Deburring the flash holes would at least be something to do.
Did you buy those direct from the
manufacturer (⭐️-)?
 

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Got the dies set up. Made 5 rounds at 18.5 grains 4227. I'll make a few more of 5 of each charge weight tomorrow. Took awhile to get the dies set up. 3 die set. Is this crimp good for 44 mag? Every time I moved the crimp down even the slightest bit more than this the case started to bulge. 20210217_194945.jpg20210217_194945.jpg20210217_194941.jpg20210217_194945.jpg20210217_194924.jpg
 

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Got the dies set up. Made 5 rounds at 18.5 grains 4227. I'll make a few more of 5 of each charge weight tomorrow. Took awhile to get the dies set up. 3 die set. Is this crimp good for 44 mag? Every time I moved the crimp down even the slightest bit more than this the case started to bulge. View attachment 451550View attachment 451550View attachment 451551View attachment 451550View attachment 451552
Are you seating and crimping at the same time?
If you seat and crimp separately you should be able to get more crimp without bulging.
 

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My buddy down the street has a 1050 set up for 9mm, and a 650 set up for .223/5.56. The 1050's impressive. I've seen the literature for a Mk7, haven't actually seen one. The 650's good for me, I think my buddy's machine is overkill for him - he has money and likes toys. (who me? Jealous?)
I'll be honest the Mk7 is overkill for me me but I wanted to get the extra stations like the 1050 but not deal with the 1050 shortcomings. Truth be told I'm a total gear geek....actually my wife calls me a tool whore! I worked my way up to the Evo my buying and selling a bunch of stuff and I made out on the guns I took when I traded my 650.
 

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Got the dies set up. Made 5 rounds at 18.5 grains 4227. I'll make a few more of 5 of each charge weight tomorrow. Took awhile to get the dies set up. 3 die set. Is this crimp good for 44 mag? Every time I moved the crimp down even the slightest bit more than this the case started to bulge.

When roll crimping, you must have consistent lengths on your brass. Also, do as suggested and seat your bullets and then crimp separately. If necessary, use that neglected single-stage for this dedicated function. If you attempt to go too hard with your roll crimp, you will start crushing the cases, as the die will force the case down as you try to bring the ram higher into the die body.
Unlike cast bullets with a defined crimp groove, cannelured bullets don't offer much room to roll the mouth, so the crimp will appear to be somewhat minimal.
Unless you're making "whacker" loads, I doubt you'll have many issues with bullet creep (in or out) with your .44 Magnum hand loads. Try a cylinder full in your revolver and check the COL on the last round after firing the first four or five. I doubt you'll detect any movement in the bullet assuming you sized the brass adequately.
 

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When roll crimping, you must have consistent lengths on your brass. Also, do as suggested and seat your bullets and then crimp separately. If necessary, use that neglected single-stage for this dedicated function. If you attempt to go too hard with your roll crimp, you will start crushing the cases, as the die will force the case down as you try to bring the ram higher into the die body.
Unlike cast bullets with a defined crimp groove, cannelured bullets don't offer much room to roll the mouth, so the crimp will appear to be somewhat minimal.
Unless you're making "whacker" loads, I doubt you'll have many issues with bullet creep (in or out) with your .44 Magnum hand loads. Try a cylinder full in your revolver and check the COL on the last round after firing the first four or five. I doubt you'll detect any movement in the bullet assuming you sized the brass adequately.
This brass is all brand new star line so they should be all the same length.....considering what I paid for it....it better be. 😂

Fwiw these will be used in an old ruger 44 carbine not a revolver.
 

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@whacko You can always add more crimp to those after the fact by screwing that die in another 1/4 turn or so and cranking the seating plug way up so it doesn't push the bullet any deeper.
Yeah I've done that with 357 mag I needed to crimp more.

I think the crimp is good on these just figured I'd ask. There is a visible roll.....and like I said any more and the cases bulge out. Going to be used in a ruger 44 carbine not a revolver
 

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This brass is all brand new star line so they should be all the same length.....considering what I paid for it....it better be. 😂

Fwiw these will be used in an old ruger 44 carbine not a revolver.
I see. You can still fire a few rounds and check the COL on a couple ejected, unfired rounds.
New brass isn't guaranteed to be consistent and bullets can also have varying cannelure placement. Not usually a big problem, but this can throw you off when encountered.
For instance, I have two 30 caliber dies of the same mold number/bullet and they are dissimilar with regard to the crimp groove, so they in essence become two different bullets.
 

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Can't find any 30-30 ammo so ordered a Lee die set. Already cast for .308, Lee C309-170-F, and have about 1k in a bucket. Searched and searched online for brass and finally found a seller of mixed range pick-up brass. $20 for 50, free shipping. Now to decide on Unique or H335 as I have both.
You’re going to love Unique in the 30-30. You can get pretty respectable velocities 8 grains giving 1150 FPS or so and 11 grains giving about 1600 FPS.
 

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You’re going to love Unique in the 30-30. You can get pretty respectable velocities 8 grains giving 1150 FPS or so and 11 grains giving about 1600 FPS.
I've got a new love affair with unique for 357 mag. Only 9.6 grains under a 125 grain jsp produces a respectable velocity and very economical....and the groups I am getting are amazing. I had the highest slow fire score at bullseye league last week using that load and it was my first time ever shooting bullseye league. Yes.....an actual 357 mag load for bullseye shooting. The groups were just too good so I had to try them for league night.
 

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The more I read, it sounds like Dillon is the way to go when I graduate from my single stage Lee. No rush though, I'm still learning and not minding the single stage yet!
Been saying that for years, im not shooting high volume in any one call, few thousand spread out between 6 pistol cals, 8-10 rifles cal

So every time i get some cash saved to buy a better progressive than my lee pro 1000 i seem to buy more , bullets,powder,primers or guns.
 

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I've got a new love affair with unique for 357 mag. Only 9.6 grains under a 125 grain jsp produces a respectable velocity and very economical....and the groups I am getting are amazing. I had the highest slow fire score at bullseye league last week using that load and it was my first time ever shooting bullseye league. Yes.....an actual 357 mag load for bullseye shooting. The groups were just too good so I had to try them for league night.
That’s awesome. Wait till you try it in more cartridges. Reduced rifle loads and such.
It really is an awesome powder.
 
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