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I've fired a 45/70 one time. It was a Marlin lever action a guy was shooting at the club and he offered to let me shoot a few. I had always heard the recoil is stout .....but I was thinking like 308 bolt action kind it stout. Jeeezus I was shocked. Imo its almost comparable to 12 gauge slugs. Hell of a thumper.
It can be, but it doesn't have to be. Depends how fast you want to push that lead. They can be loaded quite mild. I like the moderate loads better. Unless you're hunting elephants they're all you need anyway.
 

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Got a chance to test the 2400 powder with the 158 jacketed bullets for 38 special tonight with my son.

Ran very well through the Henry. No signs of being underpowered.

First target 50 feet standing off hand through the Henry
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Second target through the snub revolver at 25 feet...three in one hole then I shanked two high for some reason. Think I found a good load to share between the two guns now. I do wish I had a Chrono to run these through to see the velocity I'm getting out of the carbine......and to see the difference between it and the snub.

Not sure if I should test some at 9.2 or 9.4 grains or just start cranking out a few hundred of these. Their really only for indoor range fun and plate shoots at 25 feet anyway.....not sure yet have to think about it

But....I will be working up a 357 magnum load now with the 2400 powder for the outdoor range use at 100 yards.

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Started Packing. "You don't realize how much shit you have until you have to move it".
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I just happen to be looking for a 1050 , an rcbs single stage, a scale, a chair, desk, bins, milk crates ;)

I do know some of your pain as I had to do this a few months back as my ol lady has Amelda Marcos beat in the shoe department.
 

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But....I will be working up a 357 magnum load now with the 2400 powder for the outdoor range use at 100 yards.
Just a data point from my stuff:

Zero 158 grain JSP seated to 1.570-1.580"
Starline brass
CCI 500 primers

I can load up to 14.2 grains of 2400 before I start getting cratering around the firing pin strike.
I have a note in my log from a 14.5 grain load of primer cratering but no hard extraction, and to dial it back a bit.

14.2 grains of 2400 out of my 6" S&W:
average: 1111 fps
SD: 11 fps
high: 1127 fps
low: 1097 fps
ES: 30 fps
 

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Just a data point from my stuff:

Zero 158 grain JSP seated to 1.570-1.580"
Starline brass
CCI 500 primers

I can load up to 14.2 grains of 2400 before I start getting cratering around the firing pin strike.
I have a note in my log from a 14.5 grain load of primer cratering but no hard extraction, and to dial it back a bit.

14.2 grains of 2400 out of my 6" S&W:
average: 1111 fps
SD: 11 fps
high: 1127 fps
low: 1097 fps
ES: 30 fps
@p.. Interesting, I found the same thing, but at 14.5. My 357 mag and Henry BB handle it no problem. I am just learning about the art of too much pressure. I am starting to believe the primers are not a good indicator of too much pressure. Pete
 

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@p.. Interesting, I found the same thing, but at 14.5. My 357 mag and Henry BB handle it no problem. I am just learning about the art of too much pressure. I am starting to believe the primers are not a good indicator of too much pressure. Pete
There certainly can be a lot of variation depending on the hardness of the primer itself. Pretty sure that a 158 grain projectile over 14.5 grains of 2400 is going to be OK pressure wise, assuming the COAL is normal.

I just got back from shooting some .357 Magnum 2400, N110, and H110 loads across the chronograph. And doing some quick groups at 25yd with my Henry BB (tang sight).

158gr Zero JHP
14.2gr 2400: mv = 1603, sd = 17, group = 1.0" @ 25yd (about 0.6" + flier, maybe my fault)
16.0gr H110/W296: mv = 1685 , sd = 23
15.0gr N110: mv = 1702, sd = 25, group = 0.5" @ 25yd

180gr Missouri RNFP
12.5gr 2400, mv = 1583, sd = 18, group = 1.25" @ 25yd
13.5gr N110, mv = 1663, sd = 13, group = 1.25" @ 25yd

I was trying to figure out whether I should go with N110 or just use 2400. Unfortunately, while my 2400 loads were selected partly based on lower stdev's in past tests, the N110 loads were just single points that I had selected by backing off from the maximums. As the velocity shows, it's apples and oranges with the N110 loads being hotter. I'd need to increase the 2400 loads or decrease the N110 loads to make it more fair. Still, the groups, which I shot quickly from a rest, about 3-4 seconds between shots, gave me some useful insights. I think I will reserve the N110 for the jacketed bullets and use the 2400 for the coated ones. Furthermore, if availability of either one falters, I'll just use the other without giving it much thought. I actually think I'm going to shoot the coated bullets a bit more out of my revolvers than the lever gun. I was shooting some of those bullets (which I had previously loaded over H110) yesterday out of my 4" GP100 with Leupold Deltapoint Pro, and it was great shooting clays off the berm at 60 yards. Sounded subsonic. At any rate, the recoil impulse was pleasant, nice push.
 

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Fairly new to reloading. But 357 158grn. H110. To 14.2. On my lee loadmaster. Feeder varies a bit. Up to 15 some times. But I’ve tested them and it’s ok in my sp101 2.25 and Henry all weather. Just bought a mini 14 so 223 and 556 in the future.
Lyman 50 lists h110 under a 158 grain jacketed at 16 to 17 grains. 15 is well below max. I run them at 16.3 as a go to load with 158 jacketed.
 

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Finally got around to putting a bench inside and moving all the "clean" stuff in.
Found a 1000 ct of Rainer 158 rnfp buried in the garage. Bonus!
Cleaned up the last of the .38 spl brass, and now its time to load for the summer games.


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Looks like you got ahead of yourself.
you could have dropped all those paint cans in the right side cab while the top was off.
Unused paint only takes up space you will toss it in 5-10-15 years.
 

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Looks like you got ahead of yourself.
you could have dropped all those paint cans in the right side cab while the top was off.
Unused paint only takes up space you will toss it in 5-10-15 years.
I'll end up using it, all the no-good stuff is in the garage with the lids off.
 
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