What’s with all the scatter guns with the birds head pistol grip?

[Shark_Cage]

WOW, I haven’t been in the scattergun market for a while but there seems to be quite a few pump and semi’s coming with this grip. I even saw a Marine Magnum offered with it.

I know it’s called a Birdsheah pistol grip but does it qualify as an evil feature in mass?

 

[Brewer]

Exactly. It’s just tip-toeing around the regs. Not a stock, not a pistol grip. It allowed the Mossberg Shockwave to be classified generically as a “firearm” rather than a pistol or shotgun and so not regulated by either ATF definition.

The Mass online portal had no option to register/transfer a “firearm” — it required choosing pistol or shotgun. A few got by with inconsistent registration. As I recall Mass eventually declared the Shockwave a pistol not on the approved roster.

 

[pupchow]

Remington's now got a semi-auto version, the V3 TAC-13. But not in MA...

Remington Drops New V3 TAC-13 Semi-Auto "Firearm"

 

[Shark_Cage]

When I first saw that I thought “Oh Maura is going to be all over that”. My second thought was “can I get one before Mass says it’s a handgun”? Lol

 

[Kevin_NH]

It’s just tip-toeing around the regs. Not a stock, not a pistol grip. It allowed the Mossberg Shockwave to be classified generically as a “firearm” rather than a pistol or shotgun and so not regulated by either ATF definition

Originally intended to be less painful to fire than the traditional right-angle pistol grip, the Federal law thing is about overall length, not about whether or not it is a pistol grip.

As I recall Mass eventually declared the Shockwave a pistol not on the approved roster.

If it makes you feel any better, New Hampshire also recognizes these as a handgun under state law

 

[pupchow]

And another version from Mossberg

New for 2019: Mossberg 590 Nightstick

 

[Kevin_NH]

And another version from Mossberg New for 2019: Mossberg 590 Nightstick

At an eighty buck premium, the wood furniture is pricey, but pretty.

 

[Waher]

I think these need a hand stop in addition to a strap. Way too close for comfort.

 

[Kevin_NH]

I think these need a hand stop in addition to a strap. Way too close for comfort.

Could always add on one of the many front sling plates from GG&G, etc.

I'm more comfortable with Mossberg's hand position than with Remington's TAC-14 as shipped with Magpul forearm, mini hand-stop:

Unlike an AR "pistol", a 12GA "firearm" is Fed-legal with a vertical forward grip, might not even look silly on the new mag-fed Shockwave?

 

[NHCraigT]

What I did with my TAC-14 ("Budget" Options):