Welfare Check??? What if I don't answer the door? Or, if I do, close the door on the police?

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What happens if the police do a welfare check on you?
Do you have to answer the door?
If you do answer the door to see who it is - can you just close the door on the police?
Can the police smash the door down?
What about the 5th Amendment? You can choose to keep your mouth shut.
Can your LTC be revoked if you ignore the police?

Somebody needs to make a video like this...
Which is for a vehicle stop...
But a video for a welfare check.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqo5RYOp4nQ
 
Reptile said:
What happens if the police do a welfare check on you?
Do you have to answer the door?
If you do answer the door to see who it is - can you just close the door on the police?
Can the police smash the door down?
What about the 5th Amendment? You can choose to keep your mouth shut.
Can your LTC be revoked if you ignore the police?

Somebody needs to make a video like this...
Which is for a vehicle stop...
But a video for a welfare check.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqo5RYOp4nQ
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Michael Rappaport is hot garbage.
 
You aren't required to open the door or answer.
If you open the door most cops are going to insert some body part to keep you from closing it.

They absolutely can and will smash your door whether or not the court finds later that they were or weren't allowed to do so - most cops aren't going to force entry but the ones that will aren't going to stop to think if they have legal authority to do it.

If you want to keep your mouth shut then ignore the knock in the first place.

If the police want to revoke your LTC they will - you are the one that has to pay the legal bill, they get OT to show up in court.

Get a doorbell camera if you feel you must answer - then tell them you're perfectly fine and will contact the concerned person that called in the wellness check to alleviate their concerns. But don't answer whether you are home or not.
 
Before she died, I asked the PD to do a welfare check on my sister.

She told them to get the f*ck off her property and there was nothing they could do.

She had isolated from friends and family. Had not left her home in two plus years. We had heard her health was suffering. And she told the cops to eff off.

She died about a month later...
 
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ThePreBanMan said:
I think as long as you're not a black woman slashing a knife at the cop, you'll be fine dude... Most cops are decent people just trying to make a living. You don't give them grief and generally, they will return the favor. That's my experience anyway.
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May as well invite them in for a chat. What could go wrong?
 
I answered the door when my neighbors called the cops and said there was automatic gunfire near my house when turns out it was just car backfiring. Really didn't feel like having a bunch of cops potentially kick down my door, tripped up on adrenaline and twitch a finger and mag dump me. They saw my cars in the driveway and TV on so they weren't just gonna leave after pounding on my door. Sometimes ignoring the police is the wrong move if you want to diffuse a situation quickly.
 
G4Y4HK said:
I answered the door when my neighbors called the cops and said there was automatic gunfire near my house when turns out it was just car backfiring. Really didn't feel like having a bunch of cops potentially kick down my door, tripped up on adrenaline and twitch a finger and mag dump me. They saw my cars in the driveway and TV on so they weren't just gonna leave after pounding on my door. Sometimes ignoring the police is the wrong move if you want to diffuse a situation quickly.
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Hence the doorbell camera answer if they don't go away after being ignored.
 
pastera said:
Hence the doorbell camera answer if they don't go away after being ignored.
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I gotta upgrade my setup. My blink xt2 besides being good for video evidence of a good shoot in case someone breaks in, horrid performance as 2 way audio.
 
G4Y4HK said:
I gotta upgrade my setup. My blink xt2 besides being good for video evidence of a good shoot in case someone breaks in, horrid performance as 2 way audio.
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Bad 2 way is a good thing
Just enough to get the point across that you are fine but horrible enough to make the cops not want to question further.
 
Breaking doors down on wellness checks is pretty common. I cant actually recall the missing person actually answering the door. Usually they were dead in the house, trapped in some weird position or simply not home.
 
My late father-in-law was doing poorly. MsHappy called the Concord MA PD; they rolled by, and got no answer. PD called the FD, who used a ladder to look in the bedroom. Seeing nobody, they gently broke in a pane of glass, opened the window, checked, and found he was not home.

They secured the place, and let MsHappy know. Her dad was at the hospital; he had not wanted to "bother anyone."

Depends on the cops, I guess.

Concord PD always seems to be very polite.
 
Marty McFly said:
He probably just runs back and throws a wig on and some messy lipstick and comes right back.
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LOL sorry @Reptile , couldn't resist. [rofl]

Back on topic- fair question regarding wellness checks. We won't have an issue with our local PD. Back in the south and out west, our county sheriffs were awesome and there was no worry there either. If I were somewhere to be concerned, I'd use 2-way communication like video doorbell of some type.
 
Reptile said:
What happens if the police do a welfare check on you?
Do you have to answer the door?
If you do answer the door to see who it is - can you just close the door on the police?
Can the police smash the door down?
What about the 5th Amendment? You can choose to keep your mouth shut.
Can your LTC be revoked if you ignore the police?

Somebody needs to make a video like this...
Which is for a vehicle stop...
But a video for a welfare check.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqo5RYOp4nQ
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqgboi0_FS8&ab_channel=TheMUSEUMTV
 
Is it safe to assume the police will try calling me on my cell or home phone first.

That would be easier.
 
Reptile said:
Is it safe to assume the police will try calling me on my cell or home phone first.

That would be easier.
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I don't think they need preban glock mags or noveske lowers so most likely they will not be calling. Welfare checks can be time sensitive, they would be negligent if they waited. Also given your documented history of autism, the recent change in the red flag laws might not be in your favor.
 
Reptile said:
Is it safe to assume the police will try calling me on my cell or home phone first.

That would be easier.
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I’d guess they’d check your only fans acct and make sure you posted today.

If I was concerned, I’d PM you and say I’ll take the $3k noveske. If you don’t immediately respond, you are most probably dead…
 
chris_1001 said:
I’d guess they’d check your only fans acct and make sure you posted today.

If I was concerned, I’d PM you and say I’ll take the $3k noveske. If you don’t immediately respond, you are most probably dead…
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I’m keeping them.
They are irreplaceable.
Nobody can get any more instate.
Not even for a million dollars.
Someone already tried to buy one after 8/1.
I would have considered the sale a year ago but not with this new law.
 
Dench said:
Breaking doors down on wellness checks is pretty common. I cant actually recall the missing person actually answering the door. Usually they were dead in the house, trapped in some weird position or simply not home.
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After the first few wellness checks, I invested in handcuffs that have a push button on the side to unlock them. The key is only for show.
 
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