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Webley "WG" Army Model of 1894

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Even five years are not too long work on a seller. The following gem has never been more than ten miles away for the last decade or two, and I expressed my interest as soon as I saw it in 2010. Patience and persistence finally paid off, and I have my first Webley Revolver.

And it's a scarce gem as one of the first run of the 1894 model. Though it is marked as "Army", it was also available for civilian sales, and is marked for the initial retailer on the top barrel strap as "W Leonard Portsmouth". The design is identical to the "WG" Target Model which was introduced less than a year later.

The WG stands for Webley Government, and not the commonly mistaken identity of Webley Green.

This one is unaltered from its original caliber of .455/.476, as evidenced from the matching number to the frame which is still visible on the rear of the un-shaved cylinder. The cylinder also features 'Church-Steeple' fluting, vs rounded fluting, which was discontinued in mid-1894. I have been advised that the grip frame number is an assembly/lot identification, and does not match the frame and cylinder numbers on the 1894 models. The barrel has no number, as this practice did not begin until the 1896 WG Army Model was introduced.

Condition is 80-85% original deep polished bluing, with moderate nicks and scratching, but no major rust or pitting. Grip straps worn to patina finish. Bore is bright. I needed to fashion my own brass front sight blade, and will need to order reproduction grips to replace the home-made flat grips with which it came.

But with fairly tight timing and lock-up, it's not a big project gun. Worth the wait.

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Welcome to the Webley family. You started with one of its nicest members.
 
What would the original grips have looked like? Nice antique. I'd like a Webley at some point, and a Reichsrevolver.

T
 
I've got a cracked pair of mk I grips lying around somewhere, but I've got no clue if they'd fit on your WG. Do some research and let me know if you'd like me to look for them. If I find them, I'll send them off to you.
 
I've got a cracked pair of mk I grips lying around somewhere, but I've got no clue if they'd fit on your WG. Do some research and let me know if you'd like me to look for them. If I find them, I'll send them off to you.

Such an awesome offer, but the 1894 grip has a greater upper radius than on the MkI. Much appreciated, sir.
 
Nice Webley. I would like to find a decently-priced MKVI shaved for .45acp. Mainly because I don't want to pay the going rate for an un-shaved original, and I want to actually shoot it. [smile]
 
Another very nice addition, congrats!

Nice Webley. I would like to find a decently-priced MKVI shaved for .45acp. Mainly because I don't want to pay the going rate for an un-shaved original, and I want to actually shoot it. [smile]

I'm happy that I've got my hands on an unshaved Mk. VI last year. I just want my collectibles unaltered.
 
Nice Webley. I would like to find a decently-priced MKVI shaved for .45acp. Mainly because I don't want to pay the going rate for an un-shaved original, and I want to actually shoot it. [smile]

PLEASE not with commercial ammo. Modern factory .45 ACP is the proof load for these oldies. At best, you'll make them very loose at the hinge; at worst, you'll blow out a chamber.

Same here, though. Once I found my unshaved MkVI, the monkey was off my back and I could start buying shaved Webleys. Which I did, at about a 25-35% discount. If you're in the market right now, there seems to be a glut of shaved .455s with reasonable opening bids and nil interest on GB at the moment.
 
PLEASE not with commercial ammo. Modern factory .45 ACP is the proof load for these oldies. At best, you'll make them very loose at the hinge; at worst, you'll blow out a chamber.

Good to know (if I ever actually buy one.) I have a friend who reloads and he makes up some very mild 185gr rounds for his Colt GC. I assume those would be fine to shoot through a MKVI with a shaved cylinder? I don't know the specs of my buddy's mild rounds but I've shot his GC with those rounds and it's a kitten.
 
A light load should be fine, but accuracy will be poor. The other side of the Webley reload equation is a heavy bullet with a Minie type design, meaning a hollow base that expands slightly to grip the rifling as it passes through the forcing cone. Lead, of course. The .455, no matter what propellant you use, is at heart a BP round from the 1870s. Modern .45 bullets are just slightly too small in diameter.

My ".45 Webley" load is 4 grains of Unique with a long-nosed 265 grain hollow base bullet. It shoots a bit high but groups very well. These bullets aren't too hard to find; PM me and I'll refer you to some vendors, if it ever comes up.
 
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