She'll see the light, someday, I hope.
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Always thinking with emotion instead of factual information. [roll]
She's confused, sheltered, and probably hates men. [roll]
ETA: It's actually scary that a college educated person would write such drivel without doing any type of research.
She's confused, sheltered, and probably hates men. [roll]
ETA: It's actually scary that a college educated person would write such drivel without doing any type of research.
If you waste any time putting any thought into what know-it-all eighteen years old think (or trying to apply logic to it), you're going to drive yourself crazy.
It's kind of like getting upset at what some high school drop out actor with a drug history and an 80 IQ says about Republicans. The fact the marginally educated social misfits with self inflicted brain damage are against conservatism tells you that conservatism is right.
It's kind of like getting upset at what some high school drop out actor with a drug history and an 80 IQ says about Republicans. The fact the marginally educated social misfits with self inflicted brain damage are against conservatism tells you that conservatism is right.
Ask her if she still feels the same way with a rapist on top of her. Dumbass.
Being a college student doesn't prove anything at all about a person's intelligence or common sense. I taught at a couple of major universities for 7 years and was in higher education administration for another 11. You can take my word for the fact that some of the dumbest people ever to walk the face of the earth not only graduated from college, but actually hold doctorates. Perhaps the primary reason that big government and academia are such a mutual admiration society is that both are grossly overpopulated with people who could never survive in the real world of the private sector.
Ken
Ken
Maybe you'll understand better when someone is holding a knife to your throat and ripping your clothes to rape you. Maybe you'll understand better when a former boyfriend can't accept the fact that you DON'T want him and you're marrying someone else, so he goes nuts and starts stalking you and threatening you. Maybe you'll understand better when your husband goes off the deep end and accuses you of something you didn't do, and while you're denying the accusation, he's trying to choke your lights out. Maybe, little girl, when you find yourself alone, helpless and defenseless, believing that you're about to die, you'll experience some type of ephiffany and realize just how much a firearm is a good thing to have. Maybe, if you're lucky enough to survive and mature into something more open minded.
Sorry guys...folks like her piss me off.
hell when I was in College I voted Democrat!
It's easy to do when you have no job, and no Money, and everything from the outside world is fed to you through an "enlightened" filter.
What I have a hard time getting is how all my openly gay friends are so anti-gun. they're one of the last groups of people to recive violent hate crimes on a regular basis, and yet they don't want to protect themselves?
**shakes head**
-Weer'd Beard
It's easy to do when you have no job, and no Money, and everything from the outside world is fed to you through an "enlightened" filter.
What I have a hard time getting is how all my openly gay friends are so anti-gun. they're one of the last groups of people to recive violent hate crimes on a regular basis, and yet they don't want to protect themselves?
**shakes head**
-Weer'd Beard
hehehe go me! I'm being accepting and generalising at the same time.
Belive it or not I run in a lot of Leftie-circles. I love teaching them to shoot!
Nothing beats watching a dirt-hugging Kerry-Voting Commie-hippie shoot an "Assault Weapon" and have the time of thier life!
It's better than feeding a Vegan bacon....but not by much! 8)
Arrrrrrrr
-Weer'd Beard
PS: I'm happy to hear about the couples in your class. BTW what class is this?
Belive it or not I run in a lot of Leftie-circles. I love teaching them to shoot!
Nothing beats watching a dirt-hugging Kerry-Voting Commie-hippie shoot an "Assault Weapon" and have the time of thier life!
It's better than feeding a Vegan bacon....but not by much! 8)
Arrrrrrrr
-Weer'd Beard
PS: I'm happy to hear about the couples in your class. BTW what class is this?
And don't forget the Pink Pistols!!
http://www.pinkpistols.org/
http://www.pinkpistols.org/
JonJ said:
It wouldn't be the first time hun. However, I can guarentee you that her, or the papers reply would be "It's a pity you feel the need to have a gun for protection." I've gotten so many of those replies that I could wall paper a room. I pour my heart out, detail what happened to me, explain how I got my freedom back with my first hand gun, and all I get is, "That's too bad."
They can all kiss my backside.
Well Ken is on the money with regard to academia. The truth is a lot of people are educated past their intelligence, also remember too, that it was either G.B. Shaw or Mark Twain (I can't remember which) who said that "it is a shame that youth is wasted on the young."
One thing to consider though, and that is: why do gun rights have to be associated with conservatism and the right or far left ? One of the things I find distressing at times is that we tie the gun issue to a whole lot of other issues, some of which I am at the wholly opposite end of the spectrum on. Some of you know how I feel about the war on Iraq, I am also pro-choice, have no problem with gay rights or even gay marriage but I am about as anti-gun control as anybody around. I would legalize some drugs currently banned and support the legalization of prostitution. On the other hand I support tighter controls on immigration (they should make the Minutemen something like the Civil Air Patrol or Coast Guard Auxiliary, a civilian auxiliary of the Border Patrol) and I don't favor more taxes and all this deficit spending really has me worried. I also think some social welfare programs have value. There was a time not too far back in our past, when one could be a moderate, which is to say liberal on some issues and conservative on others. I feel like I was pushed out of the Republican Party by all the right-wing evangelicals. Now I respect the religious beliefs of all, but today it seems like everyone has to have a label. Now I didn't get to my beliefs or opinions overnight, it's taken me 57 years...and all I ask of anyone is that they respect my space and I'll respect theirs. I am for more freedom not less, and it seems like I am buffeted about by both the left and the right telling me what to do or what I should think on a whole variety of issues.
Does anyone feel like me, squeezed in the middle ?
Regards,
Markv :?
One thing to consider though, and that is: why do gun rights have to be associated with conservatism and the right or far left ? One of the things I find distressing at times is that we tie the gun issue to a whole lot of other issues, some of which I am at the wholly opposite end of the spectrum on. Some of you know how I feel about the war on Iraq, I am also pro-choice, have no problem with gay rights or even gay marriage but I am about as anti-gun control as anybody around. I would legalize some drugs currently banned and support the legalization of prostitution. On the other hand I support tighter controls on immigration (they should make the Minutemen something like the Civil Air Patrol or Coast Guard Auxiliary, a civilian auxiliary of the Border Patrol) and I don't favor more taxes and all this deficit spending really has me worried. I also think some social welfare programs have value. There was a time not too far back in our past, when one could be a moderate, which is to say liberal on some issues and conservative on others. I feel like I was pushed out of the Republican Party by all the right-wing evangelicals. Now I respect the religious beliefs of all, but today it seems like everyone has to have a label. Now I didn't get to my beliefs or opinions overnight, it's taken me 57 years...and all I ask of anyone is that they respect my space and I'll respect theirs. I am for more freedom not less, and it seems like I am buffeted about by both the left and the right telling me what to do or what I should think on a whole variety of issues.
Does anyone feel like me, squeezed in the middle ?
Regards,
Markv :?
Howdy Mark- I'm right with you. I am newly re-registered as a Libertarian, but here are my stats (I don't fit anywhere):
I am a:
White
American
Female
Buddhist
Vegetarian
Anti-Gun Control
Pro-Choice
Non-racist
Pro-Gay Marriage
Pro-Social Security
Anti-Welfare
Anti-feminazi
Pro-Border Control but not Anti-Immigration
Anti-Big Government
I try not to be judgmental but it happens some times. I think everyone should have the freedom to think and believe what they want. Of course I step out of line every now and then, but who doesn't? The way I see it, we should be allowed to have as much freedom as is humanly possible. With as little interference as possible.
I am a:
White
American
Female
Buddhist
Vegetarian
Anti-Gun Control
Pro-Choice
Non-racist
Pro-Gay Marriage
Pro-Social Security
Anti-Welfare
Anti-feminazi
Pro-Border Control but not Anti-Immigration
Anti-Big Government
I try not to be judgmental but it happens some times. I think everyone should have the freedom to think and believe what they want. Of course I step out of line every now and then, but who doesn't? The way I see it, we should be allowed to have as much freedom as is humanly possible. With as little interference as possible.
mark056 said:
You're not the only one. I'd put myself a smidge to your right, to the degree that I can condense a bunch of different concepts to a point along a single axis. (What do tax policy, gun control, same sex marriage, and immigration have to do with one another? Beats me.)
You may have already seen variations on the Nolan chart, adding a second dimension to the traditional left/right split. I think it's a more accurate, if still simplified, way to represent someone's political leanings. I typically end up slightly to the right on economic issues and a bit more to the south (left) on social issues. Of course, going by that chart I should have voted for Nader in 2004 which I certainly did not!
I don't much trust the Democrats to stay out of my wallet or keep the country secure. I don't much trust the Republicans to stay out of my bedroom or keep the country solvent. So every election leaves me looking for the lesser of two evils. Given that Mass politicians swing to the left that means I vote for more Republicans than my fairly centrist position would imply. If the current crop of Democrats were more along the lines of JFK (the real one, not John Effing Kerry) then I'd have little problem with voting for more folks with a (D) after their names.
dwarven1
Lonely Mountain Arms
mark056 said:
Actually, with the possible exception of Iraq, I find myself in agreement with most of your positions.
Pro-choice -check
Gay rights - Hell, LET 'em get married... why should we straights have all the fun with the "marriage penalty" in the taxes, divorce lawyers, marriage counselors, etc? Every reason I've ever heard for penalizing gays for existing comes down to "Because the Bible said so". I've heard people say "I'm uncomfortable with it"; when pressed, the basic reason comes down to religion. See First Amendment, please.
Legalize ALL drugs - then regulate quality and tax the frigging things. That'll take the wind out of the drug lord's sails and shut down most of the money for our street gangs. Not to mention going a long way towards balancing the federal budget between not having to spend so much $$$ on the "war on drugs" and the income from the taxes. Think "Prohibition" and alcohol and how well that worked out.
Prostitution... another victimless "crime". (except for regulating quality... Hmm. Actually, there's a job that would be fun! [twisted] )
Imimgration... that's where we put all the LEO's who are wasting their time busting kids who want to smoke a joint - on the Border Patrol. And in the INS - you want to come here, no problem. Do it the right way, and oh yeah... LEARN ENGLISH WHILE YOU'RE DOING IT.
"Welfare" programs... they should be temporary only; a safety net for people who are injured or lose their jobs AND ARE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER. None of this crap of raising generations on welfare. You want welfare, fine, but there's a cutoff date. Money for job training, sure - I had a friend who got fired and then got his MCSE from NJ and got a good job. Unemployment insurance is a good thing (used it more than once myself), and there needs to be some serious overhauling of disability benefits. Those are needed, but the current systems doesn't work right. Some folks are abusing the system by working under the table while "disabled" while others who can barely walk get denied benefits and have to hire lawyers to force the system to do what it's designed to do. (Please don't ask me how to overhaul them; I'm not a career beaurocrat nor a systems engineer - I suspect that the engineer would be more useful in this.)
And as for religion... as a Jew, I'm VERY uncomfortable with a President pushing his born-again beliefs on me. No offense to those of the Christian faith, but the Christians haven't treated my people terribly well over the last 1000+ years. (just discovered that part of my family fled Spain for Germany in the 1500's to escape the Inquisition - every time I talk to my mother I learn more family history!) Anyway... I don't care if there's a creche on town property... but I don't want my tax money paying for it. If a church group wants to put one up in the town square, fine - let them pay for it. If a synagogue wants to put a menorah next to it, fine... let them pay for it. Getting the picture here? FREEDOM of religion. No matter what religion it is.
You want to teach Creationism in the schools? Sorry, no. There is NO WAY you can uncouple this from the whole "because the Bible said so" reasoning, and that is pushing someone's religion on others and using state funds to do it. You want to teach creationism? Fine, do it in Sunday School. See First Amendment.
Boy, I didn't mean to get this long-winded... and I'm sure I've offended someone with my comments. Don't take it personally; it's just the way I feel.
A year or two ago, I started surfing political groups websites and could not find ONE that matched my beliefs completely. Not Libertarian, not the Constitutional party... hell, I can't even find the one that came closest to my beliefs a couple of years ago when I was researching this stuff; it's website seems to have vanished.
So yes, Mark... I understand your feelings completely.
BTW... regarding Iraq: I'm reading a very interesting book called Imperial Hubris (by "anonymous") on this subject right now.
Well...here's goes nuthin...
I'm as conservative as they come, and I'm not part of the Evangelical right. Infact, I'm Pagan. Wiccan by choice (and no, that does not mean I worship the devil - you have to be a Christian to believe in the devil, and I'm not Christian.).
I don't believe in abortion, unless it's due to rape, incest or the mothers life is in danger. Not in this day and age when a gazillion ways of not getting pregnant in the first place are available.
We need to secure our borders - period.
I do not believe in gay marriage....keyword there being marriage. I don't have a problem with civil unions for them to get equal rights.
Spending is WAY too high and the government interferes WAY too much in my life.
That about sums it up. I believe in keeping it simple. Oh, and BTW - I used to be a Liberal in my youth. Thank the Gods I matured.
I'm as conservative as they come, and I'm not part of the Evangelical right. Infact, I'm Pagan. Wiccan by choice (and no, that does not mean I worship the devil - you have to be a Christian to believe in the devil, and I'm not Christian.).
I don't believe in abortion, unless it's due to rape, incest or the mothers life is in danger. Not in this day and age when a gazillion ways of not getting pregnant in the first place are available.
We need to secure our borders - period.
I do not believe in gay marriage....keyword there being marriage. I don't have a problem with civil unions for them to get equal rights.
Spending is WAY too high and the government interferes WAY too much in my life.
That about sums it up. I believe in keeping it simple. Oh, and BTW - I used to be a Liberal in my youth. Thank the Gods I matured.
Damn, no email. Was just going to say to her 'Before you criticize the NRA and its view on the 2nd Amendment on what it means. Take the time to go and read ALL of the Federalist Papers. You know, the ones who were written by those who drafted our Consitution and ratified it. If your as 'enlightened' as you try to claim to be, this will prove actually how 'dimmed' you are in terms of your own Consititution and that your actually a person who can be spoonfed lies and take it as truth when the truth is just a book away.'
Lynne wrote:
Well...here's goes nuthin...
I'm as conservative as they come,
I don't believe in abortion, unless it's due to rape, incest or the mothers life is in danger. Not in this day and age when a gazillion ways of not getting pregnant in the first place are available.
We need to secure our borders - period.
I do not believe in gay marriage....keyword there being marriage. I don't have a problem with civil unions for them to get equal rights.
Spending is WAY too high and the government interferes WAY too much in my life.
Yup me too !
Either you need to teach her she needs a loaded magazine or you have a fast camera catching the slide back!
Well...here's goes nuthin...
I'm as conservative as they come,
I don't believe in abortion, unless it's due to rape, incest or the mothers life is in danger. Not in this day and age when a gazillion ways of not getting pregnant in the first place are available.
We need to secure our borders - period.
I do not believe in gay marriage....keyword there being marriage. I don't have a problem with civil unions for them to get equal rights.
Spending is WAY too high and the government interferes WAY too much in my life.
Yup me too !
dwarven1 said:
So's my Mom... seen here with my Walther PPK.
Either you need to teach her she needs a loaded magazine or you have a fast camera catching the slide back!
dwarven1
Lonely Mountain Arms
Pilgrim said:dwarven1 said:
So's my Mom... seen here with my Walther PPK.
Either you need to teach her she needs a loaded magazine or you have a fast camera catching the slide back!
Fast camera... shocked the daylights out of me when I saw the photo! Can't see the ejected brass, though. Must have missed it.
Ya can see the smoke from the shot tho in the upper left!
good shot!
So are they Libs or were you being sarcastic?
I got a great shot of an old Roomate of mine with her Pilly-ass Hippie garb with a Mosin Nagant with the bayonet extended. Love it!
PM me with an email if you want to see/host it
Arrrr
-Weer'd Beard
good shot!
So are they Libs or were you being sarcastic?
I got a great shot of an old Roomate of mine with her Pilly-ass Hippie garb with a Mosin Nagant with the bayonet extended. Love it!
PM me with an email if you want to see/host it
Arrrr
-Weer'd Beard
dwarven1
Lonely Mountain Arms
Weer'd beard said:
Oh, trust me... my mother and sister are as liberal as they come. Mom used to sneak off to Kingston Trio and Pete Seger concerts in the 50's even though Dad asked her not to, so as not to endanger his Top Secret security clearance. Mom won't vote Republican even if she hates the Democratic candidate in a contest; she just can't bring herself to vote for someone with that evil R after his/er name.
My big sister, who graduated high school in the Summer of Love (1969), went to Bryn Mawr College, and lived on an honest-to-G-d commune for over 20 years, once gave me a half-hour long lecture on how owning guns was "opening yourself up to the path of violence" - her exact words. She does NOT know that I've taught both her kids to shoot and I want it to stay that way until the youngest is 18. Her son is getting all my guns in my will. Fortunately, before that happens, I'll be dead, and won't be able to hear the ruckus.
So yeah, they're both as liberal as they come. I started thinking for myself 20-30 years ago, and am definitely the gun-owning, motorcycle-riding, voting-for-whoever-I-think-can-do-the-best-job black sheep of the family. (strangely enough, I'm also the only Freemason in this generation, too. Think that has anything to do with...? Nah. Couldn't be.
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hey that ain't saying much. I have YET to meet somebody who actully LIKES John Kerry.
I know lots of people who voted for the creepy dude, but not one who liked him one bit. (Actully that's why I'm really hopeing him an Al gore Run in 2008 so I can watch them get laughed off the stage BY THIER OWN PEOPLE!)
hehehhehe
-Weer'd Beard
dwarven1
Lonely Mountain Arms
Weer'd beard said:
Uh... in spite of being an otherwise intelligent woman, Mom actually likes Bill & Hillary, Kerry, Laughtenberg, etc, and thinks that George W. Bush is the antichrist. (I'm not thrilled with some of the things that Bush has done, but I don't think that he's the all-powerful supervillain that Mom makes him out to be.)
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