I agree with you regarding the suicide. There are stacks of data supporting the idea that banning guns doesn’t change the suicide numbers in any meaningful way. They will find another way of doing it.
Removing the ‘black’ numbers is bullshit. I get it. You don’t like black people. Tough shit. They live here and they’re citizens. The laws the antis are proposing will not do shit to reduce the gun murder rate in this country as the majority of them ARE gang related and aren’t buying their guns legally but that doesn’t mean you can ignore an entire demographic from your calculations. They’re homicides and it doesn’t matter what color the killer is. Gun control isn’t going to do shit but this ‘oh it’s black on black so it doesn’t matter’ is pure bullshit. They’re not going away so if there’s a problem it’s in all of our best interests to solve it.
That's not the point at all. It's not about liking or not liking black people.
It's about the exact point that the gun rights community has been making for as long as I've been paying any attention to gun rights: The problem isn't guns - it's human behavior. And since it's a human behavior issue then it's completely within the wheelhouse of the argument to point out that we've got a demographic within the country that completely over-reaches as far as how many murders they're responsible for.
The fact of the matter is that it DOES matter what color the killer is.
The lefties want to run around and yell stupid shit like "we're all equal!!" - and " all behavior is the same!!" - when it's simply not true. When you buy into THEIR argument - you also buy into the argument that the problem is the fact that the guns exist in the first place.
Sorry - but I'm not buying it.
You're correct - they are citizens. Guess what - so am I. If some of the citizens can't behave - that's not a reason to pull rights away from other citizens. This isn't second grade.
Stop blaming the tool - and blame the people who are responsible. And the facts point squarely in the direction the people who are responsible in a out-sized number of cases - are black.
That's a problem that can likely get fixed. But it will never get fixed by blaming guns - or saying the whites , or hispanics, or asians are *equally* responsible for the murder rate.
Nobody wants to believe that different groups of people have different behaviors - especially given the amount of propagandizing the left has saturated the society with about "equality". Sorry - but they do.
Believing otherwise is going to get your gun rights completely taken away. Maybe it's time to smarten the hell up.