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Voter Fraud Changed the Outcome of the New Hampshire U.S. Senate Race

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  1. Acujeff

    Acujeff NES Member

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    Over 6,000 individuals registered to vote in New Hampshire on Election Day Nov. 8 using out-of-state driver’s licenses — and since then the vast majority have neither obtained an in-state license nor registered a motor vehicle.

    Speaker of the New Hampshire House Shawn Jasper, a Republican, issued the findings on Thursday based on inquiries he made to the Department of State, which oversees elections, and the Department of Safety.

    5,313 of those voters were not actually residing in New Hampshire. It seems that they never were bona fide residents of the State.

    5,513 is a big number – more than enough to swing two very important elections. The closest major election was the contest between incumbent Republican U.S. Senator Kelly Ayotte and challenger Maggie Hassan (D). Hassan won the election by a razor-thin marginof 1,017 votes. Those 5,313 fraudulent votes were more than enough to swing the election. If 59.2 percent or more of them went for Hassan, then the election was stolen through voter fraud. That’s likely, since the surrounding states are Democrat strongholds.

    It’s also possible that New Hampshire’s four electoral college votes were swung to Hillary Clinton through illegal voting by nonresidents. Clinton won New Hampshire by only 2,732 votes. If 74.8 percent of the 5,513 fraudulent votes were cast for Clinton, then the presidential election in New Hampshire was tipped as well.

    If the presidential contest had been closer and had come down to a margin of three or four electoral college votes, then this voter fraud might have had extraordinary consequences. Regardless, in the Senate contest, it is highly likely that voting by nonresidents changed the result.

    And that is already having consequences for the nation. If the 52-48 Republican-Democrat balance in the Senate were 53-47, it could change the balance in any number of votes – not the least of which would be the effort to repeal Obamacare.

    But the mainstream media will tell us, “Move along, there’s nothing to see here.” Voter fraud virtually never occurs.


    Articles at:

    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/7/voter-fraud-alert-over-5000-new-hampshire-presiden/

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...daily&utm_content=links&utm_campaign=20170907



    Let's not forget how voter fraud by felons tipped the MN US Senate race to Democrat Al Franken
     
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  2. Boris

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    I'm not sure if laws were broken, but most importantly, what will NH will do about it?
     
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  3. Uzi2

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    Election fraud should carry a death penalty because of the sheer number of people adversely impacted.
     
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    Remember this little gem when some a-hole claims there is no actual evidence of voter fraud, ever.
     
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  5. Rob Boudrie

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    If someone has residences in multiple states, are they allowed to choose which state they register to vote in or are they required to vote in their driver's license state?

    I suspect this could be vacation home people choosing to vote in a state where their ballot counts, rather than in a state that is virtually owned by one party.
    The fact that this could happen is a sad commentary on society.
     
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    Ayotte rolled over and played dead rather than request a recount. I would rather not have Hassan in the Senate, but the Trump doesn't need jellyfish GOPes caving every time the DNC pulls dirty tricks either.
     
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  7. Boris

    Boris Son of Kalashnikov NES Member

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    I would like to see some investigation to look into this, if it was organized or instigated.

    voter fraud is one of the most heinous crimes against the state and I can't believe how lightly people think of it.
     
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    It this is what's on DWS' laptop that the Pakistani IT team handed over to the DoJ and is turning state's evidence as part of a plea bargain then things are going to get really interesting.
     
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    Your subject line states something that is neither known nor knowable: whether the outcome was changed.

    The findings also don't prove fraud. It is data, and the only real conclusion that can be reached is what the data shows: that some voters didn't have NH resident IDs and still haven't acquired them. They might very well be bona fide movers who just haven't gotten new IDs yet.

    I know people who have lived here for years but keep Vermont ID and car tags so they can pass inspection easier.

    Oh, and less than 6,000? Whatever happened to those tens of thousands we were being promised a few months ago?
     
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  10. Boris

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    that's great, let them vote in VT then.

    even if there is 100 that should be stamped out. It's bad enough that minority fields the taxes, now they can't ****ing vote.
     
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    I've lived in the state I live in for over a year (15 months) and still have my license and car reg from the old state. It happens.
     
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    FActor in the college kids voting, and it's a UGE issue!! I consider NH Donald territory, I know only one couple that voted for the devil, and they just moved here, and I don't like them. Actually, they probably still lived in MA when the election happened, but anyways.

    We need to fix this problem ASAP. No more 'domiciled' BS. No more same day registration!! And hanging for frauds.
     
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    It is perfectly for a student in another state to register in NH if he is a residential student in NH, and there is no requirement he obtain a NH drivers license to do so. He may be required to get one to drive, but there are students who live on campus and do not bring a car with them (common in my day; rare now since every kid "needs" a car).
     
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    Mandatory photo IDs to vote. Period.
     
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    With a passport like set of requirements to obtain one.
     
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    not kosher if they're also registered in their home state. and just because it's 'legal' doesn't make it right. Currently the wording in NH is 'domiciled' so if you stay the night, you could be domiciled here.

    Only taxpayers should be voting, period.
     
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    We ARE better off without Ayotte......there's no squishy GOP progressive incumbent with a pot of out of state money to primary in the next election now.

    And before folks get all but hurt they should look closely at Ayottes voting record....nary a difference between her, Shaheen and Horse face Hassan,,,,,Ayotte was even sponsoring gun control legislation at the end of her term

    Good riddence....I hope she enjoys a permanent retirement from politics

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    OUT OF STATE students voting in the state they go to college in is bullshit....they are OUT OF STATE students because they are not residents of the state
     
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    NO. It is mostly efforts of unions sending members up to campaign at polling places and having them vote while they are there. Unions from Mass used to send bus loads of members up to vote. Now they have members meet people with NH license plates that pick them up and deliver them to the polls. Out of state students are allowed to register to vote in NH which also skews the vote. Many of the students are urged to vote absentee in their home state as well as in NH

     
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    6k in one state, do you know how many states there are?
     
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    58, right?
     
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    Wow...what a shocker [thinking] ... people were saying this during the election, over 8 months ago.

    Does NH give a [email protected]?
     
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    The taxpaying hardworking residents do.
     
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    Agreed. My feelings as well.
     
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    The article says 5300 were not residents - any student not commuting from out of state would be a NH resident, so it can't be students.

    Anyone know if you have a house in NH but not residency, can you vote?
     
  25. Uzi2

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    It is a direct crime against the individual legal voters, effectively cancelling (read DENYING) their legal vote. It has the same consequence/effect as someone chasing you away from the poll at gun point, or a politician legislating away your right to vote.

    Couple that with the long term effects that are usually suffered by very large groups of people who would not have seen those effects put into play, the crime of voter fraud/election fraud should carry the most extreme penalties.....life imprisonment or death.

    The effects are long term if not permanent and far reaching yet people blow it off as a "victimless crime". Nothing could be more incorrect, its victims number in the tens of millions usually.
     
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    That is contrary to many state's laws. Many if not most states require a person to obtain a new driver's license and plates within 90-120 days of taking residence.
     
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    Oh really? I had no idea. [rolleyes]

    The point is: the article is saying that a bunch of people voted using out of state IDs, and never got an NH ID. It's perfectly reasonable to think they maybe, just maybe, some of them are lazy ****s like me that simply never bothered to switch over to the state they now live in.
     
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    This isn't about a single election/candidate, its about voter fraud itself in general.....it denies the legal voter the ability to select/ control the government that he/she is required to live under thereby denying them of their constitutional rights.
     
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    So, you're an admitted scofflaw?[shocked]
     
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    Agreed. however the universities push students to enroll to vote there as there are benefits to the school, on the other hand the universities still charge these students "out-of-state" tuition. To me the tuition charged should be the qualifier to vote in the state. And they are not "disenfranchised, as they can still submit absentee ballots for whatever their home state is.
     
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