YESSSSS! I was thinking the exact same thing! They always backed off so the criminals wouldn’t get even crazier and take more chances driving 100 mph through neighborhoods. Let them feel like they’re getting away.
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Video - UPS Hijacking, shootout with police in Florida
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See post six....
This situation does reinforce the fact that even during your everyday course of driving to work or wherever, you should always keep at least a good 1-2 car distance between you and the car in front of you when slowing and stopping to leave an emergency exit route if something like this goes down.
Drivers box themselves in in traffic constantly, never thinking that now they can’t back up or move forward to provide themselves a route out of a bad situation. They don’t think of it or pay attention but this is def a good learning point for that alone. The idiot behind you will most likely be right on your rear bumper so it’s up to the aware and alert driver to leave some space in front to be able to punch the gas without needing to work the steering wheel over and over to just get the hell out of Dodge in a hot minute.
Ya it really makes no sense at all. Mind boggling. Even the newest rookie should know or have been taught that in any type of hostage situation that Patrols first and foremost action is to contain and cordon off the area. Nothing more. Let the negotiators get on scene to handle it and buy some time to better control the scene and position your people.
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I was taught that if you can see the tires of the vehicle in front of you touching the pavement, you have enough room to go around if you have to. Good rule of thumb, imo, especially for people who may not have the experience/common sense/brainpower to estimate distance in feet or car lengths or whatever. Either you can see where his tires are touching the road or you cant.
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that car in the left lane - BACK THE F UP!!!
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there was another video take from a car at the intersection to the right of these cars. Shows the man in the Lincoln. Looks like his back window was hit. Round must of came in and hit him in the back or head. You can hear the person recording calling for help from the cops and them asking what happened.
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Wasn’t Miami where that big bank shoot-out was in the 80’s? Maybe trained to act like the bank robbers?????
Remember the stolen bus in Boston in the 90's.
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Exit kill zone immediately if taking fire. Better possible death than certain death.
I'll try.
An infamous FBI shootout took place in '86:
1986 FBI Miami shootout - Wikipedia
The 1986 FBI Miami shootout was a gunfight that occurred on April 11, 1986, in a then-unincorporated region of Miami-Dade County in South Florida (incorporated as Pinecrest in 1996) between eight FBI agents and two serial bank robbers and murderers. During the firefight, FBI Special Agents Jerry L. Dove and Benjamin P. Grogan were killed, while five other agents were wounded. The two robbery suspects, William Russell Matix and Michael Lee Platt, were also killed.
And the big bank shootout I remember was the one in LA, CA in 97:
You drive your ass away - as quick as you can.
I was watching this on the nightly news on Friday - and one of the videos clearly showed 3 or 4 cops clustered up and hiding behind an SUV, that looked like it was trying to get out of there - but got stuck in traffic. The vehicle they were hiding behind looked like it was trying to force the vehicles in front of it to move.
I see shit like this and I think that it's a good example of how people can't think under pressure - either that or they're like my wife - who would never think of throwing the vehicle into reverse and leaving those cops standing their out in the open holding their dicks - because she sucks so badly at using her rear view mirrors and at general vehicle awareness of what's around her in general.
If that was me - I would have thrown the vehicle into reverse and left those cops there - even if I had to run the phuckers over.
You can always go to court later and claim you panicked under fire if they decide to be dicks and prosecute.
We had to burn down the village to save it.
The next news report I would like to see is a news chopper view of the Broward County Sheriff's office being surrounded by UPS trucks - and the video clearly showing the building taking dozens and dozens of rounds.
" A wild scene coming to you live at the Broward County Sheriff headquarters - dozens and dozens of UPS trucks have surrounded the building and is being shot up by what looks like hundreds of rounds!!. "
That's the video I was referring to. The guy in that SUV had a little bit of lack of situational awareness and panic going on as well. He (or she) should have thrown that thing into reverse and gotten the hell out of there and left those cops standing there with no cover.
This.
Companies could give a shit less about the safety of their employees.
The Co. I work for had some guy come in and speak to us about "workplace violence" a few years back. It was a freaking sideshow. First bit of weirdness was the onsite security guard just stood up at the front of the room and glared at everybody the whole time. The "specialist" they brought in to give us the speech basically had nothing good to say other than "hide" - and to remind us of the corporate policy against weapons on company premises. He seemed to really target his so-called advice towards disgruntled employee type shooters. A few people started asking questions. I asked the guy what sort of advice he had in regards to terrorist type shooters. He seemed to get a little perturbed by the question and asked me if I could elaborate. I responded with " well if there is a terrorist in the building instead of just some pissed off employee - he's there because he's going to kill everybody - including himself. Having us all huddle in one room and wait for the cops is just about the worst advice ever - because the cops are going to just stay outside until we're all dead - do you have any better advice for that situation ?. "
He didn't.
And the security guard looked like he was pissed that the question got asked. But the rest of the room could clearly see at that point that the guy was just a corporate ass kisser there to dot the I's and cross the T's.
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So, just to one up this.... Since we have a total of 4 people who were shot and killed here, doesn't this qualify as a mass shooting as well? Also, police brutality? I think we can check a lot of boxes with this one.
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And the stolen (I think) airplane in the late 80's/very-early 90's in Boston.
And the guy they had at gunpoint (forgot if they shot) on 95 outside Providence Place Mall 1-2 years ago.
There was a snippet from it posted to imgur, that's where I saw it.
Couldn't they at least have put a tarp over that truck while it was in transport or something? I'm pretty sure quite a lot of people would be upset seeing that, with the bullet holes and bloodstains in plain view, and/or might not want to explain what that is to their kids. And I don't know if there's any evidence on that truck to preserve, but they're sure not preserving evidence by transporting the truck like that. At least close the door to hide the bloodstains.
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Hmm. Did they have his home address? Driver's license?
There are many ways to make a man sit with an 18mo old at home.
Also, has anyone reminded ourselves yet that this is now a +1 on the mass shooting event wedgie board? Cause it is.
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