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I am looking to sell my wilson custom tactical ar15 in postban configuration before moving to NC and I am trying to determine a fair value.
Does anyone have any input on this or where I might look, there are not a lot of these out there.

Factory Built in 2004, email from CS confirming this.

Quad rail, flat top upper, flip up rear sight with A2 front sight
very good condition and low round count

Working on photos.

Thanks
 
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The mods closed the other thread, so lets proceed with this one. I'd suggest you put your question back in your first post on this thread.

I am looking to sell my wilson custom tactical ar15 in postban configuration before moving to NC and I am trying to determine a fair value.
Does anyone have any input on this or where I might look, there are not a lot of these out there.

Built 2004, very good condition and low round count

Thanks

Was the gun a factory built gun from wilson?

If so, do you have proof of that. That goes a long way with something like this.

What kind of features does it have? Geissele trigger? Quad rail or free float tube? Magpul prS stock?

Plain muzzle?

What would a similar new gun configured similarly from Wilson cost?
What are they going for on Gunbroker.

Answer these questions and you will ahve a very good idea of the retail value of the gun.

For a wholesale deal, or trade in. Figure 20-30% under retail.
 
What you paid minus at least 15%?
Quick search I found this.


http://www.cabelas.com/product/Wilson-Combat-Tactical-Custom-AR-Remington/1792062.uts

Are these the Wilson arms rifles?
Looking in blue book values non have a A2 front sight.
All flip sights.
All the models listed @ 95% run 1400-1800 depending on features.

With the current market the way it is trade in value or dealer your lucky if they give you 50%
So far most shops I have delt with give you 70% rating or less of blue book value. Unless it's a high demand collector guns.
Example: I found the SPR model did have a fixed A2 at some point.
The MSRP 2450$ NRA rating of 100% basically unfired in box with all the papers 2250$ NRA 70% rating 875$
 
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The market will dictate what it's worth. Right now, its a buyers market with all the AR's out there. As we know, that can change overnight....
 
rkwjunior said:
Look at gunbroker to get market value.
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Look at sold listings to get a better idea.
In the current market it's got to be cheap....seems more care about how inexpensive they can get them.
I'm ignorant to their rifles. Are they really worth it? I never knew they made rifles.?
 
mac1911 said:
Look at sold listings to get a better idea.
In the current market it's got to be cheap....seems more care about how inexpensive they can get them.
I'm ignorant to their rifles. Are they really worth it? I never knew they made rifles.?
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I"m amazed when I see uppers for $300 complete with BCG and CH. I got so excited the last time one came up that I bought two.

Of course, I have a specific use for them as uppers on a M4 machinegun. Its always nice to have a disposable upper for MG use.

Don
 
Wilson Arms doesn't make rifles.

They are one of the largest OEM AR barrel makers in the country.
They are located a mile from where I grew up in Branford, CT.

Wilson Combat is the famed custom 1911 maker, who got into ARs about 15 years ago.

Don
 
What you paid minus at least 15%?
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I would be surprised if a used rifle not on "shortage status", or pre-ban in a ban state, would command 85% of original purchase price.

With handguns, it is VERY difficult to shoot enough rounds to noticeably degrade accuracy. A few cases of ammo will do that to an AR15, taking a 1/2 MOA rifle down to a very usable, but less accurate 1 to 1.5 MOA gun.
 
iefstath said:
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So back to the original question. Some other thoughts.

I see some "problems" with the saleability of this rifle based on its rather strange configuration of a Rifle stock with a carbine upper. Also many of these features are "dated". Which will work against you.

1) Carbine length gas system vs mid - the internet says mid is better
2) A2 stock vs telescoping - don't get me wrong, the A2 is a better stock. But everyone wants a fancy stock these days, even if its pinned.
3) A2 front sight vs something low profile since everyone uses optics these days.
4) quad rail vs something slicker
 
Hvymax said:
Also quadrail is out keymod is in. I'm sure it's a quality product and will get a premium for the name but today's premium is not last year's premium.
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Quadrails will still be "in" as long as it's in our military's inventory. Keymod is just the next new fad...a crappy one to add.
 
Da_lucche said:
Quadrails will still be "in" as long as it's in our military's inventory. Keymod is just the next new fad...a crappy one to add.
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Quad rails are stupid for most people who don't hang anything more than a flashlight off their AR. The first thing that most people do is cover them up.

What is best for a soldier is not necessarily what is best for a citizen.
 
dcmdon said:
Quad rails are stupid for most people who don't hang anything more than a flashlight off their AR. The first thing that most people do is cover them up.

What is best for a soldier is not necessarily what is best for a citizen.
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IMO, Keymod is just flavor of the month until something else takes its spot.

Irregardlessly, I'll stop hijacking the thread!
 
dcmdon said:
Wilson Arms doesn't make rifles.

They are one of the largest OEM AR barrel makers in the country.
They are located a mile from where I grew up in Branford, CT.

Wilson Combat is the famed custom 1911 maker, who got into ARs about 15 years ago.

Don
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Im so used to "wilson arms" I failed to catch that mistake. Thank you.

I still stand on my method. What you paid minus what you will accept as a loss? What was the MSRP in 2004 ?

List it for sale, as each week goes by reconsider your price?
 
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I'ver had this for several years and I'm not looking to retire on it's sale...but I'm not going to get rid of it just to end up spending more on a replacement.

I have checked gunbroker several times and there are rarely any to be found. Msrp on a new replacement is about $2500


Also, the rifle is far more accurate than I will ever be.
 
iefstath said:
I'ver had this for several years and I'm not looking to retire on it's sale...but I'm not going to get rid of it just to end up spending more on a replacement.

I have checked gunbroker several times and there are rarely any to be found. Msrp on a new replacement is about $2500


Also, the rifle is far more accurate than I will ever be.
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If your particular configuration is 2500$ to replace from Wilson Combat explains why you don't see many.
Why don't you post it for what you paid for it?
Im sure you could build a far better rifle for 2500 than your current set up or what Wilson Combat offers for 2500$.

Really need to list what makes this rifle so special.
What does it have for a trigger. Do they even tell you whos barrel they put on. Chamber ?
Almost sounds like you really don't want to sell it?
 
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PatMcD said:
No offense, but there isn't an AR in existence that is worth $2500.
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While I'll agree with you for the AR15, that's not as true for the AR10. Still, if you're not a complete clutz, you could easily build at least two solid AR15's for $2500. Or one really great one and two more moderate AR15's.

The OP's AR15 is only worth what a serious buyer will pay him for it. For me, it has too many things on it I'd want to change to even think about getting it. I can't see how they can justify selling a new one for $2500. Is it made out of gooooooold??

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To answer the original question: I'd be hard pressed to see how that rifle would attract more than $1000, and to tell you the truth, I'd see that selling closer to $850.
I base that on the following: what does it do for me that a Windham weaponry, s&w, rock river, etc. M4 configuration won't do?
 
PatMcD said:
To answer the original question: I'd be hard pressed to see how that rifle would attract more than $1000, and to tell you the truth, I'd see that selling closer to $850.
I base that on the following: what does it do for me that a Windham weaponry, s&w, rock river, etc. M4 configuration won't do?
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You can't even find anything close to that configuration on their web site.
The more expensive ones are billet upper/lower with full length rails and some other upgrades.
Even still the market is not great for a AR 15s. You need to find someone who wants a Wilson Combat rifle.
The non continuous rail really says to me.....wtf ? I was not into ARs at all in 2004 so you guys that where need to tell us what was cool then.
 
I've got just over $1000 into it, really wasn't sure of the value but I figured maybe up $1500. I figured if I could get rid of it for around there it would be worth it, o well.

Just ordered an aimpoint pro for it, also ordered one of the uppers from primary arms and an eotech. Now i just need to decide on a stock for that one.

This should keep me busy for a while
 

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