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Updating electrical switches

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by andy t, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. Rob Boudrie

    Rob Boudrie NES Member

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    The real challenge is getting a four way right. And, of course, if you are going to connect everything after the drywall goes up, having the correct number of conductors in each run.
     
  2. AHM

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    860V? You're gonna need a bigger meter.
     
  3. Rob Boudrie

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    And a lot of luck. That s--t is dangerous, different league than 110VAC outlet power.
     
  4. AHM

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  5. Skysoldier

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    860V.....that's still low voltage to me.
     
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  6. Coyote33

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    I used to work doing general contractor for my Dad. This involved a LOT of painting.

    Antique White
    Ivory White
    Eggshell White
    Parchment White
    Cloud White
    Lily White
     
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  7. xjma99

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    If you ‘need’ a four way switch, chances are the house is not wired correctly. Lots of houses aren’t wired well. Less is more.

    And it still stands that decora switches are for muslim terrorists and liberals... hitler put decora outlets in his bunker right before he offed himself!!!

    Toggle switches and regular duplex outlets are far superior, /thread.
     
  8. Rob Boudrie

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    I have no idea what switches were used but I have a stairwell/hall light in 2013 construction that is operated by 3 switches - star bottom, stair top and and of hall. Would one have a butterfly connection and be a 4 way?
     
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    Yes, one is a 4 way.

    Once you have two 3-way switches controlling a load, you can theoretically throw as many 4-way switches inbetween the travelers as you can possibly dream of.
     
  10. Palladin

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    Same setup as my house, also have three control positions for the kitchen lights.
     
  11. Rob Boudrie

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    So, as a pro, what is your opinion of the statement "if you need a four way switch, chances are your house is not wired correctly"?
     
  12. Palladin

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    A room with multiple points of entry is required to have lighting control at each entry location. The most I've seen is five, two three ways and three four ways
     
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  13. Spanz

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    nah, go old school if you are going that way:
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  14. Dennis in MA

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    My grandparents lived in a 2-family in Dot that had an old switch for the living room lights. I loved that switch.

    Don't forget Navajo White. You can't forget Navajo White! It's a totally different. . . . white.



    Oh, and I want a trademark on "FUPA switches." ROFL!!!!
     
  15. Wrench75

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    Or toilets apparently. [laugh]
     
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    I'd electrocute myself. :D
     
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  18. AHM

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    What is that thing on the right -
    safety, decocker, mag release, slide lock, bolt assist, ...?
     
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    Dimmer, I think.
     
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  20. new guy

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    Bulb loaded indicator.
     
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  21. Coyote33

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    Toilet paper dispenser!
     
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    They hate us cause the ain't us
    F-m
     
  23. widnerkj

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    Gaaah.... there are still a lot of old knife switches in the old mill in the mine where I work.
     
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    It was a quarter, to maybe a half tongue in cheek comment! I don’t do a ton of residential work but sometimes you walk into a house, looks nice from outside but the switching and lighting layout is just atrocious. I also laugh at people that put in four gang switch boxes, and many of them. There is more than one way to skin a cat, to be polite.

    I have two rooms in my house with four points of entry. I don’t have any 4 gang switch boxes, only a few 3 gangs, zero 4 way switches. Sometimes, don’t just do, THINK. Then think some more. Don’t be lazy. In any room large enough to have multiple points of entry, having one source of light or one method of lighting the room is a fail in my book.
     
  25. Spanz

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    and yet they say the USA LEADS the world in mine safety! :(
     
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    There's still a couple of those in my house (not the modern lookalikes).


    And my garage has one of those!
     
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  27. qqac

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    4 gang boxes offer a lot of utility at main entrances to control interior and exterior lights, and it looks neater than the multiple face plates you would get with separate boxes. This is particularly true when you have more than one source of light or method of lighting, so I am not sure how you can advocate for more lighting control yet not 4 gang boxes, unless you like lots of separate boxes and switchplates all over the place. Certainly would be interested to hear if you are doing it a smarter way.
     
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    They hate us because they can't build a functional and free society. And they want us to be equally as miserable. Get all the Decora switches you want, take a bath in them. :)
     
  29. widnerkj

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    Just did my MSHA refresher on Monday. And frighteningly enough US mine safety is the best in the world. We average around 20 fatalities a year. Other places (cough... cough.. china) averages 13 a day. It’s a wild industry. I’m thinking about going to an underground site
     
  30. Spanz

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    My brother did a safety report for a big Chinese mining company. The title was something like “ why does America have twenty mine deaths a year, while China has thousands”. Big revelations too, like using dust masks in coal mines, etc
     

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