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Updating electrical switches

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by andy t, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. ASHDUMP

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    This is a must have. Just used mine tonight...
    Greenlee GT-12A Non-Contact Voltage Detector https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FAME70M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_aneEDbAH3QZ39
     
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    I guess I date myself. I use the neon (should not have said LED) light you touch to neutral and the line being tested.
     
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  5. 01906

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    My house is 100% decora. It's not hard, But I wouldn't do it myself. If you have a good efficient electrician. He can do an entire house in a couple of hours. That would take you or I, 2 days to do. Money well spent if you ask me.
     
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  6. AHM

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    That's not LED, it's a neon bulb.:D

    LEDs are DC operated, Neon bulbs are AC operated and used to be a common AC power switch indicator on all types of equipment before LEDs became prevalant and inexpensive.
     
  8. Rob Boudrie

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    I corrected my post - should have said neon. Generally there is a resistor in series and a pair of 6" pigtails on a test lamp.
     
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    I have one of those and have been using it for about 50 yrs now. About to order one of the new style proximity probes.
     
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    I'll +1 the leviton switches and outlets. They are absolutely worth the extra. Double so if installing the outlets with USB on them, as the USB's wont vampire your electric bill unless you plug something into them.
     
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    Sadly, jobs that give a person power over other people tend to attract people who like power. Worse is that most of those jobs are .gov jobs which are hard to get fired from.
     
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    Leviton. And, as previously suggested, get one of those things that tells you if voltage is present.

    I found out the hard way, at least twice (possibly more), that double gangs are sometimes fed from separate circuits.

    The little doodad that lights up because that wire you’re about to touch is still live is cheap insurance.

    Also: take the time while you’re doing this stuff to comprehensively map out which circuit what is on. The wiring in my condo is shockingly (literally!) convoluted, and I’m glad to have a diagram to refer to now.
     
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    Wow....so far no Electricians have chimed in saying how we need to hire them.
    I am surprised.....
     
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    A year ago, I got new lights in my living room. The switch is off-white and the plate is white. Or vice versa. Teh entire house, save a few outlets, are off-white. Circa 1994 construction. I actually prefer the off-white. It doesn't stand out as much. But amazingly, not a single person has walked out of my house because all of my outlets/switches/covers are mis-matched.


    It's on the order of "I've just got a W-2, do I need a CPA" or "I've got 3 drug convictions, should I hire an attorney to get my LTC?" level of professionalism. If you are comfortable with doing it and shut off the power, it's a bit harder than average to screw it up. (Although I did a pretty good job of it. LOL)



    As far as penis versus FUPA switches - I'm a penis-switch sorta guy. Easier to identify in the dark. It doesn't affect my manhood seeing a bunch of penis-switches around. Although most of the doors in my house are levers instead of knobs. So much easier to open with full hands.
     
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    I have a bunch of young kids running around so I like to use my mouth to flip switches and open doors when I can, to keep the old immune system updated (obviously). As a straight dude, doing that with penis switches and conventional doorknobs would just be too weird.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. .......
     
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    No I usually get the call from some guys wife and it goes like this “My husband was changing switches and now the two way switch only works from the bottom of the stairs”
    Easy $100 every time fixing the 3ways :)
     
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    I couldn't give a shit if you hired me for it or not..wait til you're doing a bank of three, shut the power for the single pole, but didn't realize the 3way was fed from another circuit...OR the common is mixed up on 3ways and you produce a hot neutral..."why won't the light go off????

    I see the classes at HD on Saturdays on doing this stuff and hand out business cards...I get one call/week

    [rofl]
     
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    I can elbow dick switches pretty well in both directions....but thankfully, the dining room light is a FUPA switch, since it is a lot easier to elbow with a plate (or four) full of food in my hands. Plus drinks.
     
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    Meh,... outlets and switches are pretty straight up. most of the good wacks come from grabbing the switch or outlet with one hand and getting the screws on each side. The path is finger to thumb, so it's not dangerous, but hurts enough to make you feel stupid for grabbing it that way. Every time I pull one out that has electricial tape wrapped around it (to cover the screws), I giggle.
     
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    Many claim to support higher voltages.
    At least 220VAC, sometimes higher (the 600's).
    I put my father's on a radio (TV?) B+ once.
    Smoke started coming out.
    Oops.
    I disconnected.
    It still worked.

    I was really impressed that whatever brand I bought at Owe's will induce Androids
    to pull >=1A from both ports.

    They think we need to hire them -
    they just have enough work already.

    Have you noticed fewer proselytizers knocking at your door lately?
    There's a photo of your house on the cork board down at the church hall.

    You should try driving a school bus.

    Takes accuracy or you can hit your funny bone.
     
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    I've always put tape around the screws, was taught to do that about 30+ years ago and it's just habit now. Luckily I've never been zapped while doing any electrical, and I've done quite a bit over the years. But I always triple check that the power is off to where I am working. Of course now that I said that... Gonna have to change to quadruple checking now :D
     
  23. Behind Enemy Lines

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    Anyone want Ivory colored devices? Cleaning out my shop and have a ton of plugs(most regular, some decora), switches, and plates. Give me a count of what you want, I'll get them ready and you can come get them. These are Ivory, not Light Almond.
     
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    nobody installs Ivory anymore...it's white or Almond
     
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  25. AHM

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    Could be worse.

    In the 1970's America was probably ->this<- close
    to getting switches, outlets, and wall plates in Avocado and Coppertone.
     
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    Isn't ivory white?

    Where are you? The garage doesn't care.


    I have these odd hammered copper ones in the kitchen. Upstairs bath has chrome. I'm guessing 60's or 70's. They still work just fine.
     
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    E318758F-4699-459D-BFF8-CBD26B7462BC.png If you want to keep your old house looking period correct
     
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    Holding out for "ecru".
     
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    Oh I know (I'm an electrician), it's why I'm offering them up before they go in the trash. ;)
     
  30. Behind Enemy Lines

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    Ivory is a tan color wrt electrical devices. I'm in Sandwich on the Cape.
     

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