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Up to 100.000 cattle dead in freak storm

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by bullseye, Oct 11, 2013.

  1. bullseye

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    Grass fed or corn fed?
     
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  3. Boghog1

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    I guess the price of Beef is going up, Flintoid here is your chance to get some midwest beef cheap
     
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  4. bch1988

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    That's a lot of lost revenue. My prayers go out to those farmers.
     
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    Better stock up some beef now.
     
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    We bought a ton of beef right before this happen.

    I have had a couple talks with folks here who lost cattle in that. It's horrible what happened.
     
  8. JCV

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    poor cattle
     
  9. Zappa

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    I hope they're planning on throwing the worlds biggest BBQ soon, lest all that beef go to waste!
     
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    They were going to die in a slaughterhouse anyway.
     
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    More Global Warming.
     
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    This big storm hit last week, didn't fit the media's global warming template. Now we hear about it due to dead cattle.
     
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    Got to be heartbreaking for those Ranchers.
     
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    Don't buy frozen beef for the next year.
     
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    Serious?
     
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    Question for NES: Should the state help them out, or should the state let them be, and let new people will take the place of those that fail?
     
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    From the article...

    “We’re not looking for a handout or any kind of special subsidy...."


    Just like the people from New Orleans. [thinking]
     
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    Not a farmer and not trying to make light of this but NO ONE saw the weather coming?
    I suppose even if you did, what do you do with stock in the field?
    Someone mentioned this is like a hurricane here in New England...we get a week notice in some instances.
    [thinking]
     
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    Low probability/high loss events such as these are what started insurance way back in ancient times, but now we need the Federalis for it:

    Blizzard Catastrophe Kills Tens of Thousands of Cows; Shutdown Leaves Ranchers on Ice | Mother Jones
     
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    How dare you! They are not looking for a handout, they get handouts forced on them to not deliver their cattle if the market is strong on supply.
    These are folks that work their herd over hundreds of acres of land, They work from early AM to late PM, they do not want any special subsidy. The fuken government forces a subsidy on them to control the numbers in their herd, If too many, you cannot bring them to market, gotta keep the price up for the cattle exchange. From you, are you really kidding me, they work harder than most people in the Northeast combined.
    C'mon Fencer, you should know better.
     
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    Their insurance is mostly private provided from a pool of insurers that are .gov insured for catastrophic like this. They will get their money, but it will be on a value no where near what market would have brought. Its shit like this that folks really need to understand. Watch your steak and hamburg prices soar, 100,000 is a large number, but that is 2 weeks worth of beef.

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    If that.
     
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    Wow, you totally misunderstood my post. I was pointing out the difference between the hardworking, self sufficient, ranchers in SD as compared to how many of the people in New Orleans acted after Katrina.

    I will try to be more clear in the future.
     
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    Thats absolutely miserable. Farmers/ranchers are some of the most hard working folk in the USA. And all just to provide for family, no lavish BS most fof the time.
     
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    Sure it fits...didn't you see "The Day After Tomorrow"? It starts out raining hard, then turns to snow, just like the article said happened here.

    This is 100% proof positive that global warming is real and caused by humans.
     
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    Thankfully the Bacon supply was not affected!

    SRS, that sucks! I remember a story years ago in the same area I think where the cattle grouped close together to stay warm, they froze dead together and the ranchers had to use chain saws to separate them... Nasty!
     
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    Serious question: so why do the cattle all die if they're caught in a freak storm? What happens "normally" - do the ranchers send them to the slaughterhouse ahead of the really cold weather - or do they have enough barn space to accomodate all those cattle and it's just a matter of getting them inside before the really bad weather?

    I do remember reading something a while back about cattle breeds and stuff like this . It was pointing out that there are hardier cattle breeds that can just be left outside even in the worst cold weather because they can stand it. So losses like this are somewhat preventable by having animals that are able to stand this type of event.
     
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    QUOTE=calsdad;3494702]Serious question: so why do the cattle all die if they're caught in a freak storm? What happens "normally" - do the ranchers send them to the slaughterhouse ahead of the really cold weather - or do they have enough barn space to accomodate all those cattle and it's just a matter of getting them inside before the really bad weather?
    I do remember reading something a while back about cattle breeds and stuff like this . It was pointing out that there are hardier cattle breeds that can just be left outside even in the worst cold weather because they can stand it. So losses like this are somewhat preventable by having animals that are able to stand this type of event.[/QUOTE

    When 3-4ft of snow fall in a freak storm like this and your cattle are wandering on thousands of acres of land[, you don't have time to herd them back to a manageable area where they can be fed and sheltered. Some of the barns are a few hundred ft x a couple hundred ft and will fit hundreds of cattle in them. Multiply that by many, many farmers and you have a serious loss and devastation. When the weather is forecast to get crappy, the ranchers keep the herds close to safety, this storm cam out of no where and blindsided them.
     
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    I guess I was wondering exactly what the ranchers do to mitigatge losses if they KNOW something like this is coming. Do they cattle all go inside - do they have barn space for that? Do they just herd them somewhere more protected to keep them out of the wind and where they can get food to them right away (I understand how having them spread all over hundreds of acres and having pockets of cattle here and there trapped in four feet of snow would lead to loss if you can't get them food AND they're cold and freezing).
     

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