Trump Vows to Veto Gun Regulations today in NH

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“My opponents are weak on the Second Amendment”
In a town hall meeting in New Hampshire this morning GOP frontrunner Donald Trump accused his rivals of being “weak on the Second Amendment,” and said that there are already enough gun restrictions.

“We have tremendous regulations already, a lot of people don’t even realize,” the Republican presidential candidate told the crowd at the event hosted by NBC’s Today show.

When asked how he would solve the problem of gun violence in America, Trump said “You’ve got to enforce what [restrictions] we’ve got right now, and there’re plenty right now.”

“People aren’t abiding by them, government does a terrible job of enforcing them, but we already have tremendous regulations.” Trump added.

Turning to his opponents, Trump declared “Carson is weak on the Second Amendment. Bush is weak on the Second Amendment.”

Trump repeated a previous assertion that mass shootings in the US are the result of untreated mental illness, rather than lax gun control laws.

“This is a mental health problem,” he said during Monday’s event, adding “We have a huge mental health problem.”

“If you look at some states, including New York and others, they’ve left, in order to save money for finance reasons, left people out of mental institutions,” Trump said.

“It is people that are unstable. We have to straighten out our mental health. And we do have in this country big mental health problems. And that’s the problem.” Trump added.

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http://www.infowars.com/trump-vows-to-veto-gun-regulations/

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Matt Lauer with all the Propecia that money can buy was not happy.

There is no better viable candidate to Second Amendment rights than Trump.
 
kind of hard to argue with that...though there are plenty of lib/progs out there that will [rolleyes]
 
Uhh I'm neither and I will. I don't want restrictions enforced I want laws repealed. He's right there are laws you didn't even know about. Such as you need an fid at minimum to be in possession of a firearm on a gun range. Do you really want that enforced? Trump is popular because he seems like he's a straight shooter and doesn't give you political double speak. While this is refreshing some times the devil you know is better than the one you don't. That being said I'm team hair piece but realize there's a lot he can do wrong by saying this stuff. And being pro mental health while in theory could be awesome could be the start of the avalanche that does lead to gun confiscation down the road.
 
Uhh I'm neither and I will. I don't want restrictions enforced I want laws repealed. He's right there are laws you didn't even know about. Such as you need an fid at minimum to be in possession of a firearm on a gun range. Do you really want that enforced? Trump is popular because he seems like he's a straight shooter and doesn't give you political double speak. While this is refreshing some times the devil you know is better than the one you don't. That being said I'm team hair piece but realize there's a lot he can do wrong by saying this stuff. And being pro mental health while in theory could be awesome could be the start of the avalanche that does lead to gun confiscation down the road.
Not in the free world.
 
What he says now may not be what he does when in office.
Also the only just law is the one in the COTUS named the 2nd Amendment.
Any other laws only benefit tyrants, criminals and madmen.
 
I agree with the mental health issue...But why is there a huge mental health problem in the US? Maybe we get to the root of that cause...

Of course I think liberalism is a mental disease....
 
Oh is trump for guns today? Guy lies with every breath he takes. Now he's saying he had it hard coming up. I guess his daddy giving him a million bucks when he was starting out was almost to much for him to bare.(that's like 10 million plus today) Gee I can't believe he's a success today. This guys a clown of epic proportions. He's for gun rights? sure he is.
 
I agree with the mental health issue...But why is there a huge mental health problem in the US? Maybe we get to the root of that cause...

Of course I think liberalism is a mental disease....

Carter and later, to an extent, Reagan shutting down the mental hospitals plays a big part in it. Mental hospitals are treated as temporary holding areas, where they drag people in, drug them, then dump them back out. A large portion of the mentally ill are non-compliant with their meds, which leads to them experiencing full-blown symptoms on the streets.

Trump is completely FOS, IMO. He is saying whatever he can to try to buy a few more votes. People are starting to realize that he isn't some "brave crusader" who tells it like it is....he's an uncouth ass who panders to anyone who will help him get what he wants. He has been anti-gun (and a democrat) for years and years, but wants to portray himself as a die-hard defender of the 2A because he thinks it will gain him a few more votes. He isn't any different that Romney was when he ran for president. Romney did a shitty job as governor of MA (not as bad as Cadillac, but pretty bad) while masquerading as a Republican. His positions would have him being counted as a liberal democrat in the rest of the country. He started running for president and suddenly he was mr. conservative.
 
Hoover will argue with it! [rofl]

The words he says now as a new supporter of he 2nd? No


Oh is trump for guns today? Guy lies with every breath he takes. Now he's saying he had it hard coming up. I guess his daddy giving him a million bucks when he was starting out was almost to much for him to bare.(that's like 10 million plus today) Gee I can't believe he's a success today. This guys a clown of epic proportions. He's for gun rights? sure he is.

This. Trump was always for some gun control, now he's flipped. He cannot be believed or trusted.
 
Carter and later, to an extent, Reagan shutting down the mental hospitals plays a big part in it. Mental hospitals are treated as temporary holding areas, where they drag people in, drug them, then dump them back out. A large portion of the mentally ill are non-compliant with their meds, which leads to them experiencing full-blown symptoms on the streets.

Trump is completely FOS, IMO. He is saying whatever he can to try to buy a few more votes. People are starting to realize that he isn't some "brave crusader" who tells it like it is....he's an uncouth ass who panders to anyone who will help him get what he wants. He has been anti-gun (and a democrat) for years and years, but wants to portray himself as a die-hard defender of the 2A because he thinks it will gain him a few more votes. He isn't any different that Romney was when he ran for president. Romney did a shitty job as governor of MA (not as bad as Cadillac, but pretty bad) while masquerading as a Republican. His positions would have him being counted as a liberal democrat in the rest of the country. He started running for president and suddenly he was mr. conservative.

Good assessment of trump. We have a mentally challenged gilr who live on the street. everyone thought she was so cute when she was younger. Then she grew up. We moved here when she was about 14. But she would have these episodes and all of a sudden you wouldn't see her for a few months. I assume they just put her in an institution until they can balance her out again.

Anyway, the summer before last left their door open and just had the screen door. The girl has known these people all her life. Anyway, she went into their house and they greeted her and let her hang out for a while. The couple is elderly so they enjoyed the company. But when it came time for the girl to leave she started trashing the place. The elderly people called her mother, she could do nothing. keep in mind the girl is around 22 or so at this time. They call the police.....they send a man cop. He won't do anything. he went inside the house and walked right out. They called for a female back up...She couldn't handle her. They called the father to come home from work. He's a construction worker. It wasn't easy but he was able to wrangle her after about 45 minutes. He was dfinately tired when he finally got her back to their house.

The girl has not been around since.

I sympathize with the mentally challenged...but some of them do not belong on the street. They need to re-open these places and properly fund and staff them.
 
Trump is trailing by 10% in each of the last 4 IA polls to carson and a national poll today has trump trailing. He's loved the polls for months, saying how they show people want him. It will be interesting how he handles this now. Yesterday he seemed shrill and defensive a bit.
 
Too many people on too many prescription drugs possibly. Too many contaminants in our air,water and ground which ends up in our foods. Too much brain washing by the liberals/progressives,socialists, communists. It may be some or all of these things or maybe something else.

I agree with the mental health issue...But why is there a huge mental health problem in the US? Maybe we get to the root of that cause...

Of course I think liberalism is a mental disease....
 
you trump leg-humpers kill me. dude's hildog's buddy, the guy already said he supports an assault weapons ban, and is from NY.

TRUMP WILL MAKE 'MURICA GRATE AGAIN! 2A DEFENDER!

just like with clit romney, a confirmed gun-grabber and socialist with his lovely gifts to MA being the AWB and romneycare.

if you guys are willingly ignoring all these facts you're deluding yourselves, if you're actually believing the words he's saying you're just an idiot.
 
The words he says now as a new supporter of he 2nd? No




This. Trump was always for some gun control, now he's flipped. He cannot be believed or trusted.

While I agree that MOST politicians can't be trusted, why do you think he, as a person, has no right to change his opinion? Have you never voiced an opinion on something, and later changed your mind when presented with more information? If you haven't, then you are a better man than I, or just thick headed! There is a good chance he is just pandering for the pro 2A voters, but that doesn't seem like it's a sound theory since we are a huge minority in the big picture.
 
Even if he/she did exist the MSM and Govt. would make sure they were marginalized as much as possible.Just like when Ron Paul did well in a poll the MSM talked about everyone else but him or gave a very short bit of acknowledgement to him and that was it.

So folks, Who is now going to miraculously appear and get the nomination that will make ALL of you happy? I know that is what you are holding out for, that special someone that will be all things for all people.

Got news for you folks he does not exist.
 
Okay, that you have said all that. Who is going to suddenly appear and get the nomination to make everyone happy?

I am not this point advocating for anyone.

can't please everyone. i'm good with paul, however i unfortunately do not see people waking up and getting on board with that.

carson's flip-flop on 2A makes me nervous as well. i really don't know where he actually stands whereas trump has made it abundantly clear where he does in the past.

Even if he/she did exist the MSM and Govt. would make sure they were marginalized as much as possible.Just like when Ron Paul did well in a poll the MSM talked about everyone else but him or gave a very short bit of acknowledgement to him and that was it.

yup.
 
Trump is trailing by 10% in each of the last 4 IA polls to carson and a national poll today has trump trailing. He's loved the polls for months, saying how they show people want him. It will be interesting how he handles this now. Yesterday he seemed shrill and defensive a bit.

polls mean nothing. this weekend i picked up the phone and they asked me if i like hillary or sanders when i said sanders she hung up on me. she said she had several questions and didn't get past the first. if i'm not mistaken aren't you the same person who said pols mean nothing when trump was leading? Im not for trump but when people and media go out of their way to slam someone running for office i start to give them a second look
 
I wouldn't really call it negativity. I would tend to call it reality. The politicians have been making promises for centuries but especially over the last several decades they are much more likely to break them or never honor them in the first place.
As the saying goes "How do you know a politician is lying? Their lips are moving."
Also as another saying goes 'fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"
Too many people have been fooled a lot more then twice and it would seem that some at least have decided they're not going to fall for it anymore.

Thank You. This just shows that folks here on this site dwell in the negativity.
 
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I think he is right about the mental health issues. I still agree with everything he says so far. All the problems this country has is the fault of the liberal commie dems, and the pubs that went along with them.
 
polls mean nothing. this weekend i picked up the phone and they asked me if i like hillary or sanders when i said sanders she hung up on me. she said she had several questions and didn't get past the first. if i'm not mistaken aren't you the same person who said pols mean nothing when trump was leading? Im not for trump but when people and media go out of their way to slam someone running for office i start to give them a second look

the correct first word to have exited your mouth should have been a "****" followed by a "you" if they still hadn't hung up by that point.
 
the correct first word to have exited your mouth should have been a "****" followed by a "you" if they still hadn't hung up by that point.

thats how my wife answers them. I play along and hope hillary sweats and spends more money. I'm registered independant so i get alot of these calls.
 
“My opponents are weak on the Second Amendment”

Trump added.

Turning to his opponents, Trump declared “Carson is weak on the Second Amendment. Bush is weak on the Second Amendment.”

Trump repeated a previous assertion that mass shootings in the US are the result of untreated mental illness, rather than lax gun control laws.

“This is a mental health problem,” he said during Monday’s event, adding “We have a huge mental health problem.”

There is no better viable candidate to Second Amendment rights than Trump.


? I thought TRUMP was the one, historically, that was a fudd on gun rights. is he reborn or something>?
 
While I agree that MOST politicians can't be trusted, why do you think he, as a person, has no right to change his opinion? Have you never voiced an opinion on something, and later changed your mind when presented with more information? If you haven't, then you are a better man than I, or just thick headed! There is a good chance he is just pandering for the pro 2A voters, but that doesn't seem like it's a sound theory since we are a huge minority in the big picture.

Someone like carson, a few years ago he said he didn't think semi auto should be allowed in urban areas. Then he recieved a ton of backlash. He spoke to many people, looked at the subject more and changed his view. I think he legitimately changed his view. i don't think carson is a gun person, nor paid attention to the subject. I don't think he knew very much about guns or the laws when he made the statement. It was also one statement.

If someone is is naive on a subject or changes over time, no issues with the flip because there is a real change of views. But if you look at trump, he was a proponent of AWB, mag limits, background checks, etc for decades. He suddenly found the light now that being a gun grabber is toxic in the R primary. Think he wouldn't flip in a nano scond if he were POTUS and there was a columbine HS thing? Trump has no core other than gratifying his own ego.

Watch trump, he flips on issues within the same interview. Google 20 times trump has changed positions since June (it was in the wash post back in sept). In an interview on O'reilly, he flipped on going into Syria with ground troops 4 times back and forth. He's a hardlinder on immigration now, wasn't 2 years ago. Wants all illegal deported back in May, then said only the bad ones (felons) had to go, others could stay and get citizenship, then they all needed to go but the good ones would be brought back, then they all need to go even the good ones.

Trump was a big fan of obamacare when it was passed, now he says it's terrible even though trump has been a LONG time proponent of single payer govt HC like europe. Said in the 1st debate canadas and scotland single payer was great.

Trump said obama was doing a great job as POTUS in the fall of 2009. He said in 2012 Hillary was a great secretary of state. he said in 2008 Hillary would be a great POTUS and he actively supported her for POTUS.

Abortion is ot an issue people generally flip on, opinions are more personal. Trump used to say he was Very pro choice and he even supported partial birth abortion. Even in pro choice circles, only a fraction support partial birth abortion, it's called infanticide by some. But now he's very prolife.

You get the gist. He's a liberal, always has been. He did not change on a few issues because his heart changed, he changed on nearly all issues and all within the past few years.

Look at hillary and her flips. Gay marriage, keystone, TPP trade deal, etc. All because it's helpful in the primary. And she said last week when questioned on her flips, she can always change her mind again. The lefty's hate her because she has no core and cannot be trusted. Trump only cares about trump, hillary only cares about hillary. Bernie is a nut but he's only made a few political switches, he is someone who was pro gay marriage in 1973, not a few years ago like hillary. He's an honest (for the most part) loon.

polls mean nothing. this weekend i picked up the phone and they asked me if i like hillary or sanders when i said sanders she hung up on me. she said she had several questions and didn't get past the first. if i'm not mistaken aren't you the same person who said pols mean nothing when trump was leading? Im not for trump but when people and media go out of their way to slam someone running for office i start to give them a second look

The polls still mean nothing. I find the flip in them interesting only because trump would talk about them for 1/2 his speech and tell people to look at them as a validation that he's right and people love him. 90% of polls are garbage, poorly sampled and just crap. Some polls are really good in their home state because they understand that area well and how to sample, some are just junk all the time. Look at suffolk university, their MA polls are usually very accurate (they know their home state.) their polls of NH, IA, FL, etc always stink though. In IA the best is always the des moines register poll, nearly always spot on the end results of the election. And so on.

One think the longtime pollster for the des moines poll said n an interview back in Aug was interesting. She said the polling thus far was junk. (Remember, some polls are all adults, some are registered voters and some are likely voters. Each type on the same issue can give very different results because the samples change.)

She said nearly 50% of those polled in their sample were saying they were definitely voting in the caucus's in Jan. Remember the caucus's are not a primary where you walk in, vote and leave. A caucus requires you to stay hours before you vote. In 2012 only 2.5% of IA voters, voted in the causcus's. That is a HUGE difference. Pollsters are taking a sample of say 500 people who represent the state and coming up with the number based on that small sample. It the people are full of it when they answer, etc the data is worthless.

The polling thus far has been crap. It's not biased, it's just bad data. And there are some polls to just ignore completely because their track record is so terrible.
 
So folks, Who is now going to miraculously appear and get the nomination that will make ALL of you happy? I know that is what you are holding out for, that special someone that will be all things for all people.

Got news for you folks he does not exist.
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You're correct. Some posters don't understand the politicians are supposed to "compromise". Unless you get a Tea Party Conservative nominated(not going to happen) then we're considered far right gun nuts. Cruz would be great but he's unelectable. Carson has no experience and after seeing him w/Chris Wallace Sunday, explaining his plan to replace Obamacare, he's not electable. Trump? Hmm, I see him slowly fading away. As of now I like Rubio but the nomination/election is a long way off. Let's hope Hillary gets indicted and Lying Lizzie steps in to save the Dems.
 
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