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Transferring a Pre-Ban AR to Ma. from NH

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by rwl1955, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. rwl1955

    rwl1955 NES Member

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    Co-worker has a line on a 1991 Bushmaster XM15S from a private party in NH. He's a Ma. resident w/a LTC, problems?
     

  2. StevieP

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    probably
     
  3. Reptile

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    How would such a person take possession of the rifle?

    Does it have to go through FFL in Mass?
     
  4. daekken

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    Find an FFL that will transfer it?
     
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  5. Len-2A Training

    Len-2A Training Instructor Instructor NES Life Member NES Member

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    Some FFLs in MA can read the law and understand that a legal pre-ban is AOK. Said person just has to ask around until he finds someone who will do the transfer.
     
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    Len-2A Training Instructor Instructor NES Life Member NES Member

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    Technically no, it could go thru an FFL in NH, but even a long time ago many in NH and ME refused to sell genuine pre-bans to MA residents . . . and then you add the confusion of a press conference/memo from the AG and I don't think it is worth the effort to try to educate a non-MA FFL.
     
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  7. StevieP

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    Gone to Carolina in my mind...
    But because it's interstate it DOES have to go through an FFL, somewhere? OP couldn't just take possession and submit an eFA10, right?
     
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  9. enbloc

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    Transferring a Pre-Ban AR to Ma. from NH

    My favorite way is in the trunk of my car...
     
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  10. Behind Enemy Lines

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    None.
     
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    Slick willy is a crook through and through, but he ain’t no fool. Don’t ask, don’t tell.
     
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  12. Len-2A Training

    Len-2A Training Instructor Instructor NES Life Member NES Member

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    Is that worth a federal offense and perhaps PP status thru-out the US?
     
  13. sschevy

    sschevy Instructor Dealer NES Member

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    Where in mass is your coworker located , if hes close to the north shore I can help
     
  14. dcmdon

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    Does your friend own vacation property in NH?? A ski place? A lake house?
    I ask because if he does and he spends time there, then per the ATF, he is a resident of NH, and all that is required is a handshake deal in NH and that he then eFA10 it when he brings it into MA.

    If you don't believe me, please google ATF Form 4473. Question 2 asks for residence address. Go to pg 4 and read the instructions for question 2. It explicitly addresses the issue of weekend/vacation homes.
     
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  15. rwl1955

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    Tewksbury. He's trying to negotiate a price with NH resident.
     
  16. mac1911

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    There’s no real value to preban in NH unless it’s some collectors status thing.
    I dont know who he used for transfer but my friend found a preban IIRC in Texas had it shipped to his FFL in western mass. Paid 650.00 plus shipping
     
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    How long ago was that?? $650 is a fantastic price these days.

    People in other states know what these are worth to people in CA, CT, and MA.
     
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    Yup, I'd pay that all day long.
     
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    Handshake deal as in private sale? I thought dual residency was only good at ffls for non compliant guns and handguns and such. Figured you had to be a full time resident to do a private sale?
     
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    Meet the seller in a FFL dealer in NH. Do the transfer at the FFL in NH (since out of state private seller has to go through FFL) bring it to MA and efa10. It’s a pre 1994 gun.
     
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    Less than a year basic A2
    Just got a hold of him, 1992 Olympic arms lower with a unknown A2 upper. Well worn. Finish . Was on the rack with several other AR rifles from the cheap $495 carbines to a few “match “ rifles for $1500
    All where plain Jain models. Nothing fancy and only a few brand new ones from the least expensive end..,, what he told me
     
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    I’ll have to pass this along to my dad who’s got a skiing/hunting camp in Maine. He’s there almost every weekend in the winter.
     
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    He is not lying. Here it is.

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  24. dcmdon

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    Its not dual residency. Every government entity has a different definition of what it takes to be a resident somewhere. The ATF's definition happens to be very generous. You are a resident of the state where your vacation home is when you are there using the residence. Per the ATF. In this case, the ATF is all we care about because NH doesn't have any laws restricting the secondary sale of fireaarms.
     
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    I agree!!!!
     
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    I can handle the transfer for you in Littleton, MA.
     

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