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Add to that he was purposely rocking the plat forms as much as possible in practice, instead of trying to learn how to keep the sway/wobble to a minimum. I think that was a poor decision and strategy.
I would agree with you, but let's not forget that he had the 2nd fastest time. Douchebaggery and all that aside, 1:25 was not a poor performance.
I wasn't too harsh on him there. Remember that this was one of the rare occasions when the practice session very closely resembled the actual challenge. Most of the time its just an analog. I think he was preparing for the idea that he may have a platform he cannot control. Remember, Ashley did pretty well in the challenge. He was just over a minute IIRC. Something like the second or third best time. Can't critique his performance, just that 7 year old attitude of his.
I'm not 100% of what Ashley's AFSC is (it's not called MOS in the Air Force) and there are very few Special Forces AFSC's...he would either be Para Rescue, Combat Controller or Combat Weatherman. I don't know how he earned the BS but I do know that some people "earn" medals & awards for doing basically nothing. I knew an E-4 who got an MSM for being in Tops in Blue for only 1 year...WTF???
I've been very disappointed in the Air Force contestants, mainly their attitude but I wonder how much of it is creative editing (Adam looked like an ass in Season 1, but he's actually a pretty nice guy...) than actual personality. Ashley came off as very classless with Jamie and somehow George is the puppet master of their group. This season is way too much drama. I have no idea how the "couples" season will bode. If it keeps on the current course then the show will turn into any other reality program and not worth my time.
I've been very disappointed in the Air Force contestants, mainly their attitude but I wonder how much of it is creative editing (Adam looked like an ass in Season 1, but he's actually a pretty nice guy...) than actual personality. Ashley came off as very classless with Jamie and somehow George is the puppet master of their group. This season is way too much drama. I have no idea how the "couples" season will bode. If it keeps on the current course then the show will turn into any other reality program and not worth my time.
He doesn't have any "MOS" in the USAF, he has an "AFSC":
He is Air Force Special Operations, so either:
1C2X1 -- Combat Control (CCT)
or
1T2X1 -- Pararescue (PJ)
Either way, Although he has no class, and was a D-Bag, I will still give him credit for completing the toughest training program/schools in all the SOCOM...
That's a pretty bold statement. I know guys who were in firefights, received purple hearts and bronze stars without V's that would probably disagree with your assessment.
In no way do I question his background, skill, patriotism, or bravery. I just think he behaved badly.
It was worse than that, actually. At least George is trying to be funny when he's a douchebag. Ashley was just being a straight up dick head. It surprised me too, because he didn't act like that the whole competition. I had a lot of respect for him before that.
I think it comes down to something along the lines of Jamie acting sketchy regarding his job in the Navy. George straght up asked him: "What do you do in the Navy?" and Jamie replied: "I'm in the Navy." He had been described, and commented on saying he was Navy EOD, Rescue Swimmer, leads the armory, etc.. But he would never tell anyone what he did, and to the other .mil guys that is sketchy. Like he was trying to act "harder" than he really is, or make people think he was a badass. Granted, he never did say he was a SEAL, but that he was attached to a SEAL unit, so Ashley got that specific part wrong.
I have understood why the .mil guys have acted twords Jamie because of how he has conducted himself. Asides from the sketchiness with his fellow servicemen, he also alienates himself! He acts like "the other dont want to play with me", but he runs off on his own, doesn't try to be part of the group or engage the other players it seems. Every shot you see of Jamie he is on the other side of the house playing with himself, by himself.
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Not a bold statement, it`s fact. Most officers who deployed into a combat zone get Bronze stars. If you were in a firefight and received a Bronze Star without a V you got screwed but it usually means you were enlisted E-1 to E-4. I have 2 officers with Bronze Stars in my current unit, one was MI and the other a powerpoint Ranger. Neither saw any combat. It`s the system that Officers need the medals to get promoted more than enlisted Joes. Look back on Vietnam and see the ratio of Silver Stars to officers vs. enlisted, ie John Kerry. I was stationed on a AF Base 03-04. E-7 AF SP received one for deploying to Iraq and never saw a shot fired. He was embarrassed by the award and refused to get the license plate.
Alright dude, go tell Ashley his bronze star doesn't mean shit.
![[rolleyes]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/042.gif "Roll Eyes [rolleyes]")
He's not an officer, he's been in combat, what more do you need?
Alright dude, go tell Ashley his bronze star doesn't mean shit.
I'd be nervous telling him his shoe is untied...
I already didn't like George but when he said the FAL "sucks!" it turned to utter hatred, lol. Ashley's a-hole side was a surprise to me. I wonder if he's always been like that but the footage ended up on the cutting room floor, or if he was just turning up his "TV character" a notch.
Jaime detailed his Navy experience here: http://community.history.com/topic/34444/t/NOT-AN-ASSASSIN-Jamie-s-Navy-Background.html
That's FUNNY! For me it was the exact opposite. When he said the FAL sucks, I began to NOT hate George as much as I did before.
![[rofl]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/013.gif "ROFL [rofl]")
I think, in that moment, his world crashed. He was the last blue member and he knew that he was going to get singled out for elimination. But, when Joe volunteered for elimination again, he saw his salvation in Jamie. The only thing that could go wrong was the group ignoring Joe again (not likely) or Jamie winning. I'm sure he didn't give much credit to the latter happening so when it did, he was crushed. He lashed out. It was, IMO, a reaction without contemplation but that often is the biggest revelation of true character. He's a sore loser.
Alright dude, go tell Ashley his bronze star doesn't mean shit.
I didn`t say his Bronze Star didn`t mean shit. I said being awarded a Bronze Star doesn`t mean shit. Depends what the certificate says it was awarded for. Big difference between keeping a cool head in Combat vs. putting together a great powerpoint brief for the Commander`s BUB.
Ashley is an a$$hole and I`d have no problem telling him that to his face. When you call someone out and then you choke and act like a baby you`re an a$$hole. I`ve only been watching bits and pieces of this years competition but the contestants acting like mean girls towards the rescue swimmer was pretty juvenile. So looking like Rambo makes you bad?
Still, Jamie does deserve to be called out...
You have such strong views on this topic but have only watched "bits and pieces" of this season for your knowledge.. Fail.
WTF? Who said that?
