Ricochet that is. A damn hard one. Had on a mid weight jacket, a sweat shirt and a T-shirt and it still drew blood. Not sure what it would have done if it was summer and I was just wearing a T-shirt. Was shooting my new Colt Delta Elite in 10mm with S&B 180gr fmj flat nose ammo at reactive metal at 7 yards. Needless to say I backed up some before I shot again. Guess it’s some hot ammo.