Thread Protector or Brake for threaded rifle barrel muzzle

[Kurtz]

I recently bought a 204 Ruger bull barrel for my AR build and it has a threaded muzzle, this caliber doesn't really need a muzzle brake so I'm considering a thread protector. Has anyone had one of these tack welded onto a stainless barrel? Or would you have a brake welded on instead?

 

[moojpg2]

you can pin and weld a thread protector the same as a brake, doesn't matter much, would be the same process.

 

[one-eyed Jack]

you can pin and weld a thread protector the same as a brake, doesn't matter much, would be the same process.

This. So when you move to a free state you can remove it and put a can on it. Jack.

 

[HorizontalHunter]

Is silver solder an acceptable substitute to a “pin and weld” ?

Bob

 

[Kurtz]

Not everyone works with stainless from what I've heard

 

[moojpg2]

Is silver solder an acceptable substitute to a “pin and weld” ?

Bob

yes but harder to remove than a pin/weld.

 

[HorizontalHunter]

yes but harder to remove than a pin/weld.

Interesting. I would have thought the opposite.

Thanks,

Bob

 

[moojpg2]

Not everyone works with stainless from what I've heard

stainless is done with the same process but not actually welded. 416 stainless shouldn't be welded on, it tends to crack because of high sulphur content, it needs to be TIG brazed with a dab of silicon bronze filler wire.

 

[not new guy]

I know it’s not the best aesthetic choice, but would boogering up the threads to the point that nothing could screw on satisfy compliance requirements?

 

[moojpg2]

Interesting. I would have thought the opposite.

Thanks,

Bob

I guess it could go either way, depends on what you are more comfortable with. In reality clean the threads with alcohol, and apply marine JB weld to the threads, would require a torch to remove just the same.

 

[Kurtz]

Maybe I'll have the threaded area removed then re-crowned, anyone know a Gunsmith near the Cape?

 

[not new guy]

Dave Santurri can help you.

 

[Waher]

Maybe I'll have the threaded area removed then re-crowned, anyone know a Gunsmith near the Cape?

Don't do that. Have a compensator or brake pinned and welded. You will wreck the value of the rifle chopping the barrel like that. Better to leave it in a way that can be converted back to free state status later on or have the muzzle device changed if preferences changes.

 

[apander]

I have been shooting since 1968 and lived in mass. since 1980 and NEVER had any weapons checked for anything, why do you Care?

 

[Kurtz]

I have been shooting since 1968 and lived in mass. since 1980 and NEVER had any weapons checked for anything, why do you Care?

All you have to do is get pulled over by a bored cop and it's all over

 

[apander]

All you have to do is get pulled over by a bored cop and it's all over

I refuse to worry about what if's ! F**k Em !

 

[mac1911]

I recently bought a 204 Ruger bull barrel for my AR build and it has a threaded muzzle, this caliber doesn't really need a muzzle brake so I'm considering a thread protector. Has anyone had one of these tack welded onto a stainless barrel? Or would you have a brake welded on instead?

Why not get a bull barrel with a target crown? Paying someone to turn a new crown sounds like to much to invest in a barrel at that point. Removing the threads only will just look like crap and it will always give you negative thoughts!
204 is not a super common barrel so you might find one in stock with out threads somewhere.

 

[mac1911]

Don't do that. Have a compensator or brake pinned and welded. You will wreck the value of the rifle chopping the barrel like that. Better to leave it in a way that can be converted back to free state status later on or have the muzzle device changed if preferences changes.

If done correctly it will just be another bull barrel with a target crown?

 

[StevieP]

Just screw on a thread protector and leave it at that. If someone is ever inspecting your firearm to determine whether it's pinned & welded, you likely already have bigger fish to fry than worrying about the muzzle device.

 

[Asaltweapon]

Just screw on a thread protector and leave it at that. If someone is ever inspecting your firearm to determine whether it's pinned & welded, you likely already have bigger fish to fry than worrying about the muzzle device.

This. Faux weld a pin and tighten it good.

 

[mac1911]

I got sick of my brake on my AR and I needed a lighter barrel to pass some match rules,,,,so I got cheap and hacked off the brake/threads and took some meat off the heavy part if the barrel.

CMP Modern Military AR is over weight, Questions for machinists. Calculating weight of material

Looking at the drawing here: http://riflebarrels.com/wp-content/uploads/h-bar-ar15.pdf It looks like the barrel could be profiled on a 7x12 lathe with some setup work with a spider and steady rest. Taking 0.100" off is slow on a small lathe but even at 0.010" per cut it is only 10 passes - it...

www.northeastshooters.com

 

[mac1911]

Maybe I'll have the threaded area removed then re-crowned, anyone know a Gunsmith near the Cape?

I did not have much luck finding anyone down this way. I live in Kingston
I ended up doing my own with the help of someones tools. I had to do the work though. Maybe if your lucky you can catch Greg Derr on a slow week.

 

[mac1911]

Just screw on a thread protector and leave it at that. If someone is ever inspecting your firearm to determine whether it's pinned & welded, you likely already have bigger fish to fry than worrying about the muzzle device.

This or a black thread protector would look good ? Then its just a matter of welding up the pin/hole on the cap? I had a 22lr barrel cap pinned and welded by Tactical Solutions came out nice.

 

[Kurtz]

Does anyone know if a .223 Muzzle Brake will work for a .204 Ruger?

 

[Wrench75]

LRI Custom Fitted Thread Protectors

Our thread protectors are designed to serve a dual purpose. When installed they alter the muzzle to emulate a recessed muzzle crown typical of a sporting type rifle. This provides additional insurance against accidental damage. The innovative notch at the front facilitates easy removal and...

www.longriflesinc.com

 

[one-eyed Jack]

This. Faux weld a pin and tighten it good.

With some red locktite. (will have to heat it to get it off). Jack.

 

[paul73]

Interesting. I would have thought the opposite.

Thanks,

Bob

i soldered it myself in 10 min. it is extremely simple and no one ever will be poking at it to inspect the soldering. as long as it is done - it is done.

 

[mac1911]

i soldered it myself in 10 min. it is extremely simple and no one ever will be poking at it to inspect the soldering. as long as it is done - it is done.

What did you use ? What type of metal, solder? How hot did you get it

 

[paul73]

What did you use ? What type of metal, solder? How hot did you get it

Just some solder I had, I think it was marked at 470degC. And a loctite.
Brake was predrilled, so I tapped barrel with hand drill just enough to make a small indent - which was totally unnecessary, placed a copper wire piece into a brake hole and poured solder on top. Looks just fine and actually locked it just fine as well.

 

[cathouse01]

Just some solder I had, I think it was marked at 470degC. And a loctite.
Brake was predrilled, so I tapped barrel with hand drill just enough to make a small indent - which was totally unnecessary, placed a copper wire piece into a brake hole and poured solder on top. Looks just fine and actually locked it just fine as well.

To meet the ATF spec you need to use silver solder that has a melting point above 1100 degrees F (593 digress C) or weld over a hardened steel pin. But as others have said, if the ATF or the police are trying to remove your brake from your gun, you’re already in a lot of trouble.