They really do despise us. CNN on Trump supporters...

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I'll bet not a single one of those "guys" would know how to change a flat tire or install a new toilet...
 

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Speak for yourself, this idiot trump supporter knows the sea route to Sevastopol, through the Dardanelles and the Bosporus straights.
LOL

That knowledge, and a nickel will get you a piece of Bazooka Joe bubblegum. ;)

My point is that - WHO CARES if Trump, or anyone, can find Ukraine on a map? As if that was a qualifying blip on the "what a great president" or "here's a true American patriot" chart. They do a good job of picking a non-issue and making it THE issue even when it's not. "Oh, Trump supporters can't find the Ukraine on the map." Neither can most Americans. Ergo, 1 is just a subset of the other. And who cares??? It would be like disqualifying The Squaw because she can't field-strip a 1911.

I forget what game - maybe F111 - but I bombed the crap out of Sevastopol a bunch of times in college. . . . 30 or so years ago. LOL

I'll bet not a single one of those "guys" would know how to change a flat tire or install a new toilet...
Nor make a stool with just a pocket-knife, a spoke-shave and a hatchet. Nor grind corn into flour in the field. Nor program in COBOL. Again - what's the point? Obscure or non-complimentary skills STILL don't qualify or disqualify. (FWIW, I can do the toilet and tire thing. I haven't programed in an ancient language in decades. I could probably grind corn into flour. I would not recommend sitting on the stool I made.)
 

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LOL

That knowledge, and a nickel will get you a piece of Bazooka Joe bubblegum. ;)

My point is that - WHO CARES if Trump, or anyone, can find Ukraine on a map? As if that was a qualifying blip on the "what a great president" or "here's a true American patriot" chart. They do a good job of picking a non-issue and making it THE issue even when it's not. "Oh, Trump supporters can't find the Ukraine on the map." Neither can most Americans. Ergo, 1 is just a subset of the other. And who cares??? It would be like disqualifying The Squaw because she can't field-strip a 1911.

I forget what game - maybe F111 - but I bombed the crap out of Sevastopol a bunch of times in college. . . . 30 or so years ago. LOL



Nor make a stool with just a pocket-knife, a spoke-shave and a hatchet. Nor grind corn into flour in the field. Nor program in COBOL. Again - what's the point? Obscure or non-complimentary skills STILL don't qualify or disqualify. (FWIW, I can do the toilet and tire thing. I haven't programed in an ancient language in decades. I could probably grind corn into flour. I would not recommend sitting on the stool I made.)
Nope, it was a jeopardy question last month, it gets ya $2000.[smile]

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It's the same on both sides, though.
There you go again, assuming that there's simply "two sides" that are like, symmetrical or something. It's not just "the right" that the moonbats are
shitting on here. There's a bunch of people with mixed ideologies that are basically being sniped at by the far left moonbats at this point.

So many people on here despise democrats and this place is just a big echo chamber, There's so much hate, divisiveness and tribalism.
Lol I think if you took an actual survey here a lot of us hate nearly all democrats and most republicans.... [rofl] Tribalism? yeah I guess it is if you want to describe us as the "ive paid my taxes now please leave me the f*** alone" tribe.... the thing is things get testy whenever "they" come looking for more taxes and want to f*** with our rights of individual autonomy.

And yes there are some generic neocon tards here too, I get it.. but there's also a handful of generic whining dems, too.

There's also a ton of spin and hyperbole on both sides. I guarantee that if you put 50 republicans and 50 democrats (regular people, not politicians) all in the same room, 80 of us could agree on most things.
This is a meaningless statement without context. This changes geographically. Plus what about all the other people that don't identify as either one of those
things? AKA the silent majority. In my book most self described democrats are f***ing worthless, probably like 99%. and probably 85% of most republicants,
too. They are all part of the problem of why we're in this stew of stupidity.


I'm socially liberal but financially conservative. I don't give a crap who marries who. I think we should have welfare programs for the truly needy but we need to boot the leaches. I think we should have a military so we can defend ourselves but I think there's a lot of wasted money that should instead be used to fix the problems in our own country.
You will probably find this hard to believe but I'm actually pretty socially liberal. I don't give a shit what people do with their bodies, who they sleep with, or what gender they
identify with, or any of that stuff. The distinction is I;d rather not have the government involved in any of that, in any way shape or form. I also don't agree with increased government authorized theft to pay for inefficient social programs. Stop asking the government to point guns at people to achieve whatever you think is "social justice. "

I think we do have some problems with illegal immigration but a wall is just stupid.
You mean the immigration problem that's basically been a cumulative gigantic democrat and republican f***up for the past 50+ years? That one? I agree the wall is mostly
feel good bullshit but it's better than nothing.... not to mention the dems could have easily done some horse trading and avoided the wall thing altogether, all they had to do was
come up with an immigration reform bill that would have been bipartisan and made most of them look good in the process. The problem was they didn't want to do it because they can't stand the fact that Trump would be able to use it an achievement for his presidency. They would rather f*** over the country because "orange man bad" than achieve something that
would go a long way towards fixing a problem. Trump is one of the few guys they could get to suck for signing onto a comprehensive immigration reform bill, and they're too stupid to
figure that out...

And Trump? Seriously? The guy can barely utter a coherent sentence. His behavior is way outside of what has always been considered appropriate for a president. The Twitter attacks alone are just so inappropriate and demonstrate a total lack of class, impulse control, intelligence and basic human decency. He acts like a child. I understand how he was elected over Hillary because she really isn't that likeable but I don't understand how people can continue to defend him.
Lol @ TDS. You want to know why people defend him? ITs' all very simple. Even though he's a dick, he's a REAL person, one who seems to actually care about america, even if, at times he isn't the smartest tool in the shed or doesn't always make the best decisions. Could you really ever say the same about shitlery clinton or most of the rest of them? I could probably tolerate someone like a Jim Webb or similar, but most of these politicians are fake ass shitbirds. I don't even like the guy, but you want to know why Obama won twice? because he appeared to be less phony than all the other clowns running against him in the end game.... He beat shitlery too, not sure how the DNC thought that nominating a proven loser was a good idea. At least if they had nominated sanders he still would have lost, but it would have had the side effect of creating a legitimate discussion about the makeup of the political parties.

Also.... Protip: the only reason Trump got elected was from a short base of card carryng jingoservatives, but was actually pushed over the top by a shitload of people that likely didn't have a card carrying political identity. People got pissed off and trump was the reluctant "f*** you" double pumped middle finger vote against the system. Donald Trump is actually the product of peoples generalized anger at the mainstream in both major political parties.

He's had like 100 scandals, any one of which would have been a pretty big deal for any other past president.
100 scandals? Is that from crescent news or DemSNBC? [rofl]

Get real.... most of those "Scandals" have been harvested by CNN and turned into something larger than they actually were. Most of it is ginned up bullshit over nothing. BTW I felt the same way about Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, too. For whatever faults the guy had otherwise, that entire thing was a bunch of bullshit, no different than what they're trying to do to Trump now. . Same bullshit, different target.

Anyhoo, I'm not looking to argue or go back or forth with anyone. I'm just saying that we're all entitled to our own opinions and we all need to learn to agree-to-disagree and be confident enough in ourselves that a different opinion doesn't feel like a threat.
I get it, yes, and most of us agree to disagree all the time because we can't function otherwise, but this is just a cop out in the interest of expediency. Ignoring the elephant in the room
is convenient most of the time. I understand that completely. running around ranting about politics is impractical, and not usually productive in ones personal life.

The problem with this line of thinking is that, there are LIMITS.... and it only works as "just an opinion" if you never intend on voting or influencing anyone who is voting, in any way. In lots of cases, voting has real world consequences, which everyone wants to forget about, because thinking about the reality of that situation makes them very uncomfortable. Nobody wants to think about their wife or kid, or friend voting for someone who pretty much wants to kill them and steal all their shit. I get that, but people need to f***ing get over it, and stop with the hand wringing,, and start paying attention.... , because this form of denial isn't helping anyone. There's this f***ed up mindset in this country where people are still desperately holding onto this weird f***o 50s like, ward cleaver type fallacy that something is "just politics" like its some preferential thing like the choice of the stripe color on the wall at the high school defined by a PTA meeting, where the worst thing the "loser" has to endure is simply seeing a wrong color of stripe on the wall.

When the wrong people get elected, people die, blood and treasure is stolen from people, freedom and liberty is crushed.... it doesn't really take long to see this connection, and those who don't are blind and are PART OF THE PROBLEM.

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When Nikita Khrushchev banged his shoe at the UN podium declaring they would defeat the United States without firing a shot he was deadly serious. And as we are seeing today he was likely correct. If you read about the US throughout the '20s, '30s and 40's Socialists were common, hell FDR was one. Read about Earl Browder and the third period of the 1930s and others and you will realize that they have been at this a very long time. You all know that Communism takes control of the schools and well as the media. You would have to be blind to not realize that the extreme Left controls the schools and 80% of the media. You tell me, are CNN and CNBC doing the work of Karl Marx or Ronald Reagan. You watch the crap that comes out of most Colleges, it ain't just Cal Berkley, UMASS Amherst is a hotbed for Socialism and to add insult to injury we are paying for the damage they have done to this Country. Their anger against Trump and us is they are concerned that all of their work may be un-done, decades of brain-washing may be un-done, they are gonna fight tooth and nail to keep it from happening. And we had better believe there are many so-called Republicans who are closeted Communists themselves and would sell out Trump, and us, in a heartbeat.

I love Trump's add, "they are not after me, they are after you."

I hope to God there are enough of us left in America that can stop them.
 

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I don't really know how to quantify, but I see the right giving it out as good as the left does.

Lol can you think of something like this from a famous person on the right? And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

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The most you get in the right is maybe some idiots in a conservative email circle calling Obama's wife a gorilla or some stupid bullshit like that. Or maybe when like Jesse Watters asks dumb californian kids on the beach political questions etc. (edited out to cut out the smart ones, lol)

I'm a trump voter but I think it's a bit disingenuous to feign indignation when the left does it. Whoever is not in power just seems to be the most vocal about it.....if you go back to obama and clinton days, the right did the same things.
Where were all the assaults of people wearing Obama apparel, or putting the signage or bumper stickers on their car etc? I'm sure it happened, but practically inconsequential compared to
TDS.

While we're at it though, look at the ramping since after the Clinton admin. The Bush whining was legendary but it didn't reach the same level of TDS that exists now.

Sean is extremely dismissive of anyone who has a different opinion than he does. Tucker does to, although he definitely tries to inject more reason into the conversation.
I don't even think most of us in this thread are referring to typical talking head discourse. Of course Faux does a bunch of stupid scripted bits, as well as DemSNBC etc. Ironically even
most of those at least pretend to have some form of civil discourse. Most of these shows are all biased for the sake of driving up ratings, etc.

Like CNN though... CNN is just a f***ing joke. [rofl]

-Mike
 

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They do, and anyone who thinks they wouldn't put us on trains when they have total power is foolish.

This is a translation of the letter intended for her husband Vilma Grunwald gave to a concentration camp guard before she and her son entered the gas chamber:
vilma.png

The process is always the same:
1. They control media
2. They control education
3. They control legal system
4. They control police and intelligence agencies
5. They make up their own laws
6. They accuse innocent people
7. They remove innocent people
8. They establish "dictatorship of the masses"
9. Masses finally revolt
10. Millions have died and disappeared

In the United States we are now on step #6.
 

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This is a translation of the letter intended for her husband Vilma Grunwald gave to a concentration camp guard before she and her son entered the gas chamber:
View attachment 327860

The process is always the same:
1. They control media
2. They control education
3. They control legal system
4. They control police and intelligence agencies
5. They make up their own laws
6. They accuse innocent people
7. They remove innocent people
8. They establish "dictatorship of the masses"
9. Masses finally revolt
10. Millions have died and disappeared

In the United States we are now on step #6.
Absolutely
 

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This is a translation of the letter intended for her husband Vilma Grunwald gave to a concentration camp guard before she and her son entered the gas chamber:
View attachment 327860

The process is always the same:
1. They control media
2. They control education
3. They control legal system
4. They control police and intelligence agencies
5. They make up their own laws
6. They accuse innocent people
7. They remove innocent people
8. They establish "dictatorship of the masses"
9. Masses finally revolt
10. Millions have died and disappeared

In the United States we are now on step #6.
The scary f***ing thing is nations can get stuck in the 5-8 region in a ping ponging, hula hoop chicken neck jive turkey type fashion for many decades, or even
generations.... People tend to repeat same thing over and over again, expecting a different result...... 9 never seems to happen unless a critical mass of pissed off
people is reached.
 

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It's not nearly to the same level, not even on the same planet. The moonbats have an entire station (CNN) that basically spends 24 hours shitting on trump. [rofl]

Food for thought: Alan Dershowitz is pretty much a lifelong liberal; steps out of line on ONE thing, left pretty much considers him "excommunicado" now.

Canning this into "right vs left" is too simplistic for the situation, too.

-Mike
Dershowitz has been preaching the dangers of Islam since 9/12/01. He’s not your Father’s Alan Dershowitz.
 

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I don't really know how to quantify, but I see the right giving it out as good as the left does. I'm a trump voter but I think it's a bit disingenuous to feign indignation when the left does it. Whoever is not in power just seems to be the most vocal about it.....if you go back to obama and clinton days, the right did the same things.



Sean is extremely dismissive of anyone who has a different opinion than he does. Tucker does to, although he definitely tries to inject more reason into the conversation.
I don't remember stuff like this during the Obama years.

 

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And Trump? Seriously? The guy can barely utter a coherent sentence. His behavior is way outside of what has always been considered appropriate for a president. The Twitter attacks alone are just so inappropriate and demonstrate a total lack of class, impulse control, intelligence and basic human decency. He acts like a child. I understand how he was elected over Hillary because she really isn't that likeable but I don't understand how people can continue to defend him. He's had like 100 scandals, any one of which would have been a pretty big deal for any other past president. Anyhoo, I'm not looking to argue or go back or forth with anyone. I'm just saying that we're all entitled to our own opinions and we all need to learn to agree-to-disagree and be confident enough in ourselves that a different opinion doesn't feel like a threat.
You know how I know you watch CNN?

When policies on the left threaten to take away my freedoms, money, and life, then yeah it isn't a simple "agree to disagree" issue.

I'm not looking to argue and I wont, but I'm also not going to let this garbage fly over the bow.
 

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So if Trump is the stupidest bumbling moron President ever, how come these smartist Ivy League leftists cant prove one of their accusations?
They are unshakeably convinced that they HAVE proven them all. They KNOW the Senate is going to give him a pass despite the concrete evidence that had been presented.
 

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The scary f***ing thing is nations can get stuck in the 5-8 region in a ping ponging, hula hoop chicken neck jive turkey type fashion for many decades, or even
generations.... People tend to repeat same thing over and over again, expecting a different result...... 9 never seems to happen unless a critical mass of pissed off
people is reached.
Even scarier is the fact that EVERYTHING will turn against you. Take Vilma Grunwald, for example, she was living in Czechoslovakia where everybody should have been equal (Jews, Germans, Czechs, Slovaks, Ukrainians, Russians). They were equal for about 20 years and then they had to register. THEY HAD TO REGISTER WHAT WAS ALREADY KNOWN. Once you are registered you are doomed. You will be the first one! America still does not understand it fully, that would be my guess.
 

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Yes.

Lol I might concede glenn wreck and poopypants nugent on their rhetoric, but the rest of it is pretty flimsy.

The poison broad? she's no more famous than the crazy meijer lady I posted in the other thread. Various news sources tried to embellish her as some kind of famous actress (probably because she is good looking) but the reality is she was an extra in like a tv show and a couple of movies. [rofl]

Let me put it this way, Mia Kirshner is more famous for trying to poison Dennis Haysbert on 24 than this broad is for trying to do it to a real president in real life. [laugh]

Also trumps noises about 2A are pretty vague at best. It wasn't as if he just came out and blithely suggested that she should be taken out.


-Mike
 

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It's the same on both sides, though. So many people on here despise democrats and this place is just a big echo chamber, There's so much hate, divisiveness and tribalism. There's also a ton of spin and hyperbole on both sides. I guarantee that if you put 50 republicans and 50 democrats (regular people, not politicians) all in the same room, 80 of us could agree on most things. I'm socially liberal but financially conservative. I don't give a crap who marries who. I think we should have welfare programs for the truly needy but we need to boot the leaches. I think we should have a military so we can defend ourselves but I think there's a lot of wasted money that should instead be used to fix the problems in our own country. I think we do have some problems with illegal immigration but a wall is just stupid. I think guns are like abor....umm....the word we can't use here - If you don't like them then don't get one but don't tell other people they can't get one. And Trump? Seriously? The guy can barely utter a coherent sentence. His behavior is way outside of what has always been considered appropriate for a president. The Twitter attacks alone are just so inappropriate and demonstrate a total lack of class, impulse control, intelligence and basic human decency. He acts like a child. I understand how he was elected over Hillary because she really isn't that likeable but I don't understand how people can continue to defend him. He's had like 100 scandals, any one of which would have been a pretty big deal for any other past president. Anyhoo, I'm not looking to argue or go back or forth with anyone. I'm just saying that we're all entitled to our own opinions and we all need to learn to agree-to-disagree and be confident enough in ourselves that a different opinion doesn't feel like a threat.
You remind me social democrats in Europe in 1921. They were also very nice like you and they were reaching across the aisle. Then Stalin showed up with gulags and they were ignoring it. They wanted to be even nicer. Then Hitler cut most of them in 1930's and 1940's and what was left harvested Stalin again in late 1940's and early 1950's.

Their goal was to be so nice so everyone will like them. They did not realize evil human nature and they have decided to ignore it.

I will not comment on "100 scandals". That, my friend, is your own problem.
 

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They are unshakeably convinced that they HAVE proven them all. They KNOW the Senate is going to give him a pass despite the concrete evidence that had been presented.
I honestly think at this point that they think by repeating a bunch of stuff over and over again that, it somehow will magically make it factual.... as if somehow, Goebbels big lie theory works in legal process...

this whole thing reminds me of TPB episode....

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3yQqWNv91o
 

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It's the same on both sides, though. So many people on here despise democrats and this place is just a big echo chamber, There's so much hate, divisiveness and tribalism. There's also a ton of spin and hyperbole on both sides. I guarantee that if you put 50 republicans and 50 democrats (regular people, not politicians) all in the same room, 80 of us could agree on most things. I'm socially liberal but financially conservative. I don't give a crap who marries who. I think we should have welfare programs for the truly needy but we need to boot the leaches. I think we should have a military so we can defend ourselves but I think there's a lot of wasted money that should instead be used to fix the problems in our own country. I think we do have some problems with illegal immigration but a wall is just stupid. I think guns are like abor....umm....the word we can't use here - If you don't like them then don't get one but don't tell other people they can't get one. And Trump? Seriously? The guy can barely utter a coherent sentence. His behavior is way outside of what has always been considered appropriate for a president. The Twitter attacks alone are just so inappropriate and demonstrate a total lack of class, impulse control, intelligence and basic human decency. He acts like a child. I understand how he was elected over Hillary because she really isn't that likeable but I don't understand how people can continue to defend him. He's had like 100 scandals, any one of which would have been a pretty big deal for any other past president. Anyhoo, I'm not looking to argue or go back or forth with anyone. I'm just saying that we're all entitled to our own opinions and we all need to learn to agree-to-disagree and be confident enough in ourselves that a different opinion doesn't feel like a threat.
Here is the difference.
US : I want to be left alone to live my life.
Them : You will think and do as we tell you .
US : I just want to be left alone.
Them : Get on the train.

Derrick in a earlier post was dead on , these people really do want to put those who don't comply on a train, and kill you.
Don't think for a second those people that work for Bernie are joking.
The only difference is some of them are smart enough not to say it out loud.
You see it right in front of your face every single day.
The unceasing effort not to convince you to see it their way , the effort to FORCE you to see it their way.

Got a problem with some Tranny waving his dick around the Woman's locker room in front of your 10 year old daughter ?
No problem , we'll just arrest you for a hate crime.
See it our way or else.

When I was a younger man , two men taught me what kind of evil really lurks in this world.
My grandfather who was part of the liberation of a concentration camp and a man nicknamed Curly who survived one.
You are looking at the very same people right in front of you every day , as uncomfortable as that might be to think about.
First they have to convince everyone that you are somehow lesser than they are and the rest gets easier to justify.

Dude , I am NOT getting on the f*cking train .
 
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They are unshakeably convinced that they HAVE proven them all. They KNOW the Senate is going to give him a pass despite the concrete evidence that had been presented.
The only evidence that I've seen is that they themselves have been doing everything that they are accusing Trump of. Colluding with Russia, withholding aid from Ukraine...
 

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I'm not particularly pro-Trump.

I'm WAAAAAY non-BernLiaKloBudBloomwhoever.

Trump didn't win last time. Hildebeast lost.


This attitude that they're showing will cause another loss
Do not forget the Bloomie's Golden Ticket, though! [rofl2]

View: https://youtu.be/Mkf_Wc_WaCU


When you will see ANYONE who will be friendlier to gun owners and have giant balls to run than Our President wake me up. Everything else is just an empty talk.
 
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They do, and anyone who thinks they wouldn't put us on trains when they have total power is foolish.
Some may think that. Luckily those who do lack any sort of actual ability to get that to happen. The police arent going to do it and neither are the military.

I think the main difference between now and say 40 years ago is that these loons have a very tall soap box to spout the crazy shit off. I doubt the % of the extreme left is notably higher now than it was in the past. They are just loud crazy people who luckily posses zero practical power.

Things like NKVD land leftists paradise didnt really kick off the way that these people think it did or will again.



That said, as I always remind, the far right is pretty lame to. Luckily for the right they are usually suppressed by other right people and ostracized. The left currently doesn't really have a platform since it appears to be trying to make a new brand for itself, so this sort of shit is being loosely put up with in the meantime in hopes that these retards to join X new faction of the Democrats when they figure out what to do post Clinton/Biden era of voters. The only time I've ever seen crazy left shit is on the internet. And we've all seen some crazy stuff like 2 lovely Brazilian girls and that one thing that holds drinks. Shits crazy out here.

I suspect the right will also be going through some brand change growing pain soon (again). 3rd times a charm. The tea party and alt right got obliterated by the left and ended up alienating the middle. So we'll see what they cook up post Trump.

My point is that - WHO CARES if Trump, or anyone, can find Ukraine on a map? As if that was a qualifying blip on the "what a great president" or "here's a true American patriot" chart. They do a good job of picking a non-issue and making it THE issue even when it's not. "Oh, Trump supporters can't find the Ukraine on the map." Neither can most Americans. Ergo, 1 is just a subset of the other. And who cares??? It would be like disqualifying The Squaw because she can't field-strip a 1911.
It's a horror show when people at home demand war in places they cant even find on a map. They know so little about these conflict areas that they literally cant even locate it geographically. I don't know about you but I'm not sending hard dicks off to smoke people over seas if I cant find the f***ing place on the map. And the reason is if I can't find it on a map it's obviously some stupid ass place and Raytheon needs a new contract.
 
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